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Jetsurfer2010 06-15-2019 01:07 PM

Take home pay on year one pay is roughly $3200 a month after training. I'm ACY and never come close to breaking guarantee (which is what I prefer living in base).

Don't be short sighted though. The quality of life here is extremely high living in base. And second year of pay will be a huge increase in pay compared to any regional FO on any year pay.

Just be aware I don't think we hire many FOs anymore? A year ago everyone in my interview group that got an offer was a higher hour regional CA. Maybe things have changed a little I'm not sure. Either way best of luck. Just don't compare Spirit to any regional. Here you can have a life and a future.

symbian simian 06-15-2019 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght (Post 2837248)
X list has very much been a hit and miss, and not something I would factor into first year pay.

Some experiences:

I had a meaty 4 day trip premium trip that made for a nicer paycheck the next month, but I was also used often and inefficiently most of the rest of my reserve days (double deadheads to operate one short leg then deadhead home etc) and didn’t break guarantee so the remaining 8 days off sort of made it all a wash.

I accepted a short red eye turn X list call. I live a couple hours from base, so between commute both ways, gas, parking (the employee parking/shuttle is whole other discussion) taxes, delays etc etc, the net $300 wasn’t worth the time off I gave up to do it.

Had a last day red eye trans con home, the plane next to us was delayed with a tech issue and we were offered 2 hours credit to give up our plane, take a 3-4 hour delay and ferry that plane home. The captain was all for it as his commute didn’t leave till later that day and it was another $500. I would have gladly given my measly $100 to just go home. ($114 technically, but I doubled tipped some van drivers as the skipper said it wasn’t something “he did”)

I’m not bashing premium pay events, and they can definitely be a nice kicker when your paychecks aren’t so impressive, but on first year pay the juice isn’t always worth the squeeze.

As in he didn't tip at all? Jeez, would have been tempted to not do it to annoy him.

FNGFO 06-15-2019 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 2837312)
As in he didn't tip at all? Jeez, would have been tempted to not do it to annoy him.

Home skillet makes at least $1k per FDP and can’t afford $4 a day in tips. $8 for a 4 day? SMFH.

Xjrstreetcar 06-15-2019 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by FNGFO (Post 2837317)
Home skillet makes at least $1k per FDP and can’t afford $4 a day in tips. $8 for a 4 day? SMFH.

30 cents in 1980 is a dollar today. Van drivers once did much better..

flensr 06-15-2019 04:04 PM

First year - drop everything you can and deliver pizzas, you might make more money that way :)

Poser765 06-16-2019 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by flensr (Post 2837380)
First year - drop everything you can and deliver pizzas, you might make more money that way :)

You most certainly will not.

SSlow 06-16-2019 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by Poser765 (Post 2837741)
You most certainly will not.

Maybe under the old contract. As a third year FO I'm on track to pay more in taxes this year than I made gross during my first year as an FO here. I don't care how good (or bad) we have it in the future, I will never forget first year pay under the old contract here. It was a GD shame!

flensr 06-16-2019 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by SSlow (Post 2837916)
Maybe under the old contract. As a third year FO I'm on track to pay more in taxes this year than I made gross during my first year as an FO here. I don't care how good (or bad) we have it in the future, I will never forget first year pay under the old contract here. It was a GD shame!

True, new contract passed after I was on second year pay. First year I worked as little as possible since my wife made more than me doing baby clothes consignment sales. Then I quit because the company sued me. But the current contract seems pretty solid especially for pilots working the schedule to fly over guarantee.

dhpflyn 06-16-2019 06:36 PM

What would you consider average pay once your on second year ?

I don't mean the guys crediting way over 100 every month or if you still can drop everything every month, Just wondering what the yearly average 2nd year take home pay ?

Thanks

TrojanCMH 06-16-2019 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by dhpflyn (Post 2837937)
What would you consider average pay once your on second year ?



I don't mean the guys crediting way over 100 every month or if you still can drop everything every month, Just wondering what the yearly average 2nd year take home pay ?



Thanks



There’s so much that goes into this question/answer but if you want to get a close approximation to what your take home would be add 2% to the hourly rate then multiply it by 72 then multiply that number by .67 and you’ll have your low ball minimum guarantee of what you’ll take home. If you fly more than guarantee then replace 72 with your hours for the month and it will get you pretty close. If you try and max your 401k out or put nothing in to your 401k then it screws that formula up... Too many variables to really give you a solid answer.


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