Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2873598)

I’m not miserable I like working here but we need to adjust our way of thinking. I’d love to know what qol provisions we took instead of an extra buck. All I see is concessions and many of the same work rules we already had. You think the legacy unions don’t value qol? Yet, they seem to get the money too. I love the argument that people are coming and staying for qol. What exactly is it that we have that others don’t? The grid and that’s it. It’s a big one and had to be arbitrated to protect. It’s it though. We gave back just about everything else. With the ability to waive down the 4 days is useless to most you end up sacrificing most of your schedule if you don’t waive.

Is it the commutability
Is it the required trip mix
Is it the high min day off
Is it being able to pick your rap even if you’re the number one rsv bidder
Is it the calendar day average

It must be the 10hr 3 days

Or maybe it’s the hotel language that keeps us in only 4 or 5 star hotels even if it’s a short overnight with “walk language”. If it’s not up to par.

Maybe it’s actually having hotels and transportation booked.

Yeah we are killing it in the qol department.

There is a difference between being happy and having ones head in the sand. I’m happy but my eyes are open and know what we are worth.

Originally Posted by Betasound (Post 2873849)

Thanks to all who've responded. Looking forward to the interview (really) and I hate to interview, I think we all do. Not going to let my guard down, I know this is an interview, but it seems like they are more interested in people than being a super pilot.

I've never been an "OMG, I must be a legacy pilot or nuthin' " type. I don't need to be a transatlantic widebody driver to make myself happy. I want a step up in QOL from what I have as a regional captain. No place is perfect, I don't expect Spirit to be either.

I'm lucky to have what I have, but I'd rather take the chance to move now before I get too comfortable at my regional (six years and top 10 percent of captains) and regret it later. I am hopeful I get that chance Friday.

Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2873639)

You sure respond a lot to “just noise”.

We want the same things. A group that is content isn’t motivated though. Fact is also a lot of folks aren’t educated as to what’s in other contracts and in our own.

Originally Posted by CAirBear (Post 2873403)

In July I had a lot of important commitments with friends and family. I dropped everything and had a blank canvas to do whatever I wanted. I built my own schedule in July. I didn’t miss anything the entire month that I needed to attend. You cannot put a price on this kind of flexibility until you experience it. You just cannot. It is incredible.

This conversation will ultimately lead to the arrival of a delta bravo number 2. The only telling everyone this place now sucks and is garbage after the new contract. 🙄

I left a competing LCC for Spirit. One with horrible work rules and QOL.

I know have 4 days off at a time (minimum) and can do whatever I want and need to my schedule to enjoy my personal life. For me my life is 1000% better here.

Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2873598)

I’m not miserable I like working here but we need to adjust our way of thinking. I’d love to know what qol provisions we took instead of an extra buck. All I see is concessions and many of the same work rules we already had. You think the legacy unions don’t value qol? Yet, they seem to get the money too. I love the argument that people are coming and staying for qol. What exactly is it that we have that others don’t? The grid and that’s it. It’s a big one and had to be arbitrated to protect. It’s it though. We gave back just about everything else. With the ability to waive down the 4 days is useless to most you end up sacrificing most of your schedule if you don’t waive.

Is it the commutability
Is it the required trip mix
Is it the high min day off
Is it being able to pick your rap even if you’re the number one rsv bidder
Is it the calendar day average

It must be the 10hr 3 days

Or maybe it’s the hotel language that keeps us in only 4 or 5 star hotels even if it’s a short overnight with “walk language”. If it’s not up to par.

Maybe it’s actually having hotels and transportation booked.

Yeah we are killing it in the qol department.

There is a difference between being happy and having ones head in the sand. I’m happy but my eyes are open and know what we are worth.

Originally Posted by Betasound (Post 2873849)

Thanks to all who've responded. Looking forward to the interview (really) and I hate to interview, I think we all do. Not going to let my guard down, I know this is an interview, but it seems like they are more interested in people than being a super pilot.

I've never been an "OMG, I must be a legacy pilot or nuthin' " type. I don't need to be a transatlantic widebody driver to make myself happy. I want a step up in QOL from what I have as a regional captain. No place is perfect, I don't expect Spirit to be either.

I'm lucky to have what I have, but I'd rather take the chance to move now before I get too comfortable at my regional (six years and top 10 percent of captains) and regret it later. I am hopeful I get that chance Friday.

Originally Posted by 69fastback (Post 2873905)

Please report back with details on how it goes. It looks like I’ll be interviewing sept 19-20th. They’re still waiting to sign a contract with a hotel for a interview location.

Originally Posted by TrojanCMH (Post 2874927)

They aren’t doing the interviews at the “learnatorium” anymore?


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