August 23rd interview
 

Anyone here go to the interview in the August 7th session or, like me, is going to the interview on the 23rd?

Attended the August 7th interview. Got the call the following Monday (12th) with an October class date. Heard from a handful of others who have also received calls.

Any tough questions? I'm Sept 5th

I got the email today for the phone interview. Hopefully I can do well and get a shot.

"Why Spirit?" 😂

Not really man, just want to make sure you want to be there. One question she kept going back and forth with me is , how you would grade yourself on a scale of 1-10 as far as pilot skills, and different approaches as to way Spirit again? Really nice relaxing atmosphere in the room as you wait to get called, divided the class in two sides and we played games against each other.

Good Luck!

Don't do it, with every Legacy hiring, your selling your self short. Come work for the second to the bottom payscale.

Pay scales aren’t everything.

Everyone has their own reasons, if your goal is a legacy best of luck.

Like the saying goes "Can't fix Stupid".

Says the man who proposed antics that got us sued last time around. Reading your past posts is a master class on “Loud Mouth Pilot”

There IS a reason why you’re on the now infamous “No fly list.”

Yeah don’t interview with us, just go call up 1-800-DELTA-HR or 1-877-YO-NITED and schedule an interview.

Very quick.

Very easy.

I don’t know why more people don’t think about doing this.

Exactly. This reminds me back when I flew the CRJ and we would have a “mainline” 64.5 year old up front with us.

“You boys have your apps in with us!? Y’all know we’re hiring?”

Oh no sh...? Thanks for the heads up man! 🤦🏻*♂️🤦🏻*♂️🤦🏻*♂️

As for coming here. There will always be the delta bravos who are never happy. They will always be ****ed off we aren’t paid like Delta and United.

The biggest difference is, while my friend (a Bus FO) at United, makes a bit more, he has very little say in his schedule (after it’s awarded).

In July I had a lot of important commitments with friends and family. I dropped everything and had a blank canvas to do whatever I wanted. I built my own schedule in July. I didn’t miss anything the entire month that I needed to attend. You cannot put a price on this kind of flexibility until you experience it. You just cannot. It is incredible.

This conversation will ultimately lead to the arrival of a delta bravo number 2. The only telling everyone this place now sucks and is garbage after the new contract. 🙄

I left a competing LCC for Spirit. One with horrible work rules and QOL.

I know have 4 days off at a time (minimum) and can do whatever I want and need to my schedule to enjoy my personal life. For me my life is 1000% better here.

How dare you bring rational thoughts and opinions into this discussion

No, it was all pretty straightforward. Very relaxed atmosphere. They want to know you’re not going to immediately jump ship if a legacy calls, mostly.

It would be interesting to know how one drops everything with a grid that is red especially in July right after initial open time is awarded. Now this might be possible if one was very very senior and could actually drop in initial and also had all the weekends off with their bid award which tend to be the days already red or turn red first. What you describe is honestly not possible for most. September, maybe, but not July.

Also this kind of post is exactly the type management brings in to negotiations when they either want to cut what they view as above industry standard work rules, when at full book they are not, or they want to justify lower compensation. They want both obviously.

We can have industry standard or above work rules as well as compensation. Let’s stop thinking it’s a trade. It’s a defeatist attitude.

They’ve already sent emails about the operation and our cost advantage being our competitive edge and controlling that edge. It may be true but we are only a very very small part of that. They are already shaping the narrative for the next round.

Get over it. The guys is happy to be here. He left another A320 carrier for us for the reasons he listed above. Stop being miserable towards the good guys we have, with good attitudes. QOL is high for this pilot group and I hate to break it to you, we already took QOL provisions over an extra buck on the hourly wage. Basically calling the guy a liar about his drops, seriously? Im sure he meant he dropped and swapped out everything to get the exact line he wanted with the days off he wanted. I do that same move and he is right, its great.

You are making stuff up when you claim that "management brings posts like this to negotiations." Management will always try and low ball, regardless of what you perceive to be the standing views of the forums.

Stop being miserable..dont worry, Section 6 will be right around the corner and you can get back on the high horse of Scope and all things "necessary"

Spot on post!

I’m not miserable I like working here but we need to adjust our way of thinking. I’d love to know what qol provisions we took instead of an extra buck. All I see is concessions and many of the same work rules we already had. You think the legacy unions don’t value qol? Yet, they seem to get the money too. I love the argument that people are coming and staying for qol. What exactly is it that we have that others don’t? The grid and that’s it. It’s a big one and had to be arbitrated to protect. It’s it though. We gave back just about everything else. With the ability to waive down the 4 days is useless to most you end up sacrificing most of your schedule if you don’t waive.

Is it the commutability
Is it the required trip mix
Is it the high min day off
Is it being able to pick your rap even if you’re the number one rsv bidder
Is it the calendar day average

It must be the 10hr 3 days

Or maybe it’s the hotel language that keeps us in only 4 or 5 star hotels even if it’s a short overnight with “walk language”. If it’s not up to par.

Maybe it’s actually having hotels and transportation booked.

Yeah we are killing it in the qol department.

There is a difference between being happy and having ones head in the sand. I’m happy but my eyes are open and know what we are worth.

I was wondering how he is a line holder so quickly.

You’re miserable. If not, you sure do complain a lot. Nobody asked you to be the educator of all things contract and career.

If you think your QOL sucks, it’s probably nothing to do with our contract, it’s you.

I will make more this year than last year, even with the signing bonus, and life is great. Home whenever I want and I’m liking PBS way more than like bidding. More gains need to be made, sure, next time we will get more...and if guys get off their butts and get involved, we stand a better chance.

Until then, get off your soap box, nobody is buying what your selling and it’s just noise for almost all of us.

You sure respond a lot to “just noise”.

We want the same things. A group that is content isn’t motivated though. Fact is also a lot of folks aren’t educated as to what’s in other contracts and in our own.

Thanks to all who've responded. Looking forward to the interview (really) and I hate to interview, I think we all do. Not going to let my guard down, I know this is an interview, but it seems like they are more interested in people than being a super pilot.

I've never been an "OMG, I must be a legacy pilot or nuthin' " type. I don't need to be a transatlantic widebody driver to make myself happy. I want a step up in QOL from what I have as a regional captain. No place is perfect, I don't expect Spirit to be either.

I'm lucky to have what I have, but I'd rather take the chance to move now before I get too comfortable at my regional (six years and top 10 percent of captains) and regret it later. I am hopeful I get that chance Friday.

100% agree. All the best on Friday!

If I had to choose between being content and being motivated, I'd choose contentment. Am I a "yes every time" voter? Nope. Do I see problems that need improvement? Yes. Does that mean I think I have to be worked up and complain about everything and never feel like what I have is good enough? No.

I think it's unhealthy to be always unhappy with what we have as some sort of improvement motivation mechanism.

I left the same place you did (there are a handful of us here). But the qol after the new contract is worse then before, its great that you are able to drop everything but thats not true of everyone (base/seat) I'm not unhappy here but we do have a ways to go and lost ground.

I'm not unhappy here but all of this is spot on. As soon as anyone points out short comings here the kool-aid drinkers come out in force to defend our qol.

Please report back with details on how it goes. It looks like I’ll be interviewing sept 19-20th. They’re still waiting to sign a contract with a hotel for a interview location.

August 23rd interview
 

They aren’t doing the interviews at the “learnatorium” anymore?


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I was told that they're doing more interview classes each month now, and are having issues finding venues to hold them. I am confirmed to interview September 19th at a Marriott and I was told they're doing interview classes of 40 now. For that reason, I made sure to schedule the latest flight back home because I'm not sure if the individual interview will be shorter, or we will be there longer.

I sure hope not, that place is a dump.


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Well, got the thanks but no thanks email today from Spirit. To say I'm bummed is an understatement. The plus is that I still have a job and now I can finish my bachelors degree.

I went to Sept 5 interview in FLL, still waiting for call or email. Anyone in the same situation? How long in average does it take to get informed of TBNT or Job offer?

I interviewed late August and got the call 3 days later with a CJO. It was really fast.

Sept 5 for me too. Got called today for Nov 11

Does anyone know how far along in training you get your CASS?

Thanks

Usually first week.

Congrats bro.

I got it 3 days into it.

Sweet! Thanks dude