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Outfield 11-30-2019 12:56 AM

Income and schedule new pilots
 
Good morning.. I am about to join Spirit and will like to hear from new pilots how schedule looks like and how much money they get right after training (monthly total net or gross) 1st and then 2nd year?
Is it possible to get FLL or MCO right after training?
How many nights a month out of base?
Thanks!!

Slowhawk 11-30-2019 02:03 AM

I’m no expert and these are rough numbers but about:

$1500 a month in training after tax

3700 a month first year after tax

7600 a month second year after tax

Line holders maybe 16 days off a month.

pilots in the schoolhouse are being awarded FLL and MCO before being released to the line right now

DNicolas 11-30-2019 06:16 AM

Thanks for asking the question. I’m curious too.

flyingpuma1 11-30-2019 07:49 AM

Reserve will be 6 on 4 off, unless it’s integration then they can roll it to 6 on 1 off, which I have unfortunately done. For reserves I think it’s 13 days off a month (someone else might know for sure). You should be able to get FLL or MCO relatively soon out of training, if not in training.


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Jimdunbar 11-30-2019 07:50 AM

12 off for 30 day month, 13 for 31 day month

hellorod 11-30-2019 10:12 AM

Been hoping someone asks someone along these línes... I want to add to the question.

On reserve how much flexibility do you have on your schedule?
Can you bid when your reserve blocks are?
Are there morning, mid day or night RAPs? Can you choose preference?
Can you do less than blocks of 6 days on?
Can you get more than 4 days off in row?
Can you pick up open time?
Are you straight reserve till you get a line or do you get consolidation lines every couple of months?
And lastly... how long is reserve time until you can enjoy the benefits of being a line holder in let’s say ORD?

Thank you!

flyingpuma1 11-30-2019 10:21 AM

Since the new contract I don’t bid reserve anymore so I can’t help with some of the questions. You cannot pick up anything while on reserve nor can you drop reserve days as you used.


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BeechedJet 11-30-2019 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by Slowhawk (Post 2931705)
I’m no expert and these are rough numbers but about:

$1500 a month in training after tax

3700 a month first year after tax

7600 a month second year after tax

Line holders maybe 16 days off a month.

pilots in the schoolhouse are being awarded FLL and MCO before being released to the line right now

What are these numbers based off of???

RemoveB4flght 11-30-2019 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by BeechedJet (Post 2931824)
What are these numbers based off of???

More or less 72 hours @ year 1 and year 2 pay after taxes

If you fly often on reserve the per diem offsets most of your contributions (401k, medical etc) during the first year pay.

It has been discussed exhaustively in other threads about possibilities to earn over guarantee, but it would be wise to budget first year pay assuming you will not break the 72 hours.

RemoveB4flght 11-30-2019 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by hellorod (Post 2931819)
Been hoping someone asks someone along these línes... I want to add to the question.

On reserve how much flexibility do you have on your schedule?
Can you bid when your reserve blocks are?
Are there morning, mid day or night RAPs? Can you choose preference?
Can you do less than blocks of 6 days on?
Can you get more than 4 days off in row?
Can you pick up open time?

The answer to most of these questions with PBS bidding is yes you can bid for those.

No you cannot pick up open time on Reserve or Off days, only premium trips and only if scheduling offers them to you.


Are you straight reserve till you get a line or do you get consolidation lines every couple of months?
Depending on the time of the month you finish OE, you will get 1-1.5 months as a line holder (build up line). This is less about consolidation and more because you are not eligible to bid with the other first officers until OE is done. During that time you can add drop swap etc as a full line holder, but once you are eligible to bid you will almost assuredly be back on reserve.

There is no consolidation line “every couple months”


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