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Puck Hawg 02-13-2020 02:12 PM

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Looks like Spirit is moving their OCC to BNA. Any rumors about a pilot domicile opening up here?

RemoveB4flght 02-13-2020 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by Puck Hawg (Post 2976336)
Looks like Spirit is moving their OCC to BNA. Any rumors about a pilot domicile opening up here?

No. End of thread

MCDUmanipulator 02-13-2020 02:41 PM

Wonder why they chose Nashville? I thought our new HQ was supposed to have a new OCC also.

FNGFO 02-13-2020 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator (Post 2976349)
Wonder why they chose Nashville? I thought our new HQ was supposed to have a new OCC also.

The email said why. Less chance of a hurricane or other inclement weather/natural phenomena interrupting operations in the crystal palace.

Halon1211 02-13-2020 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator (Post 2976349)
Wonder why they chose Nashville? I thought our new HQ was supposed to have a new OCC also.

I heard Spirit is going to be teaming up with CMT for some advertising. Taylor Swift will write a song about how she meet her boyfriend on Spirit flight then dumped him later. The music video will be filmed on one of our new NEO’s.

Tell all the flight attendants you talk to about the new BNA base, let’s get the rumors started.

Qotsaautopilot 02-13-2020 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator (Post 2976349)
Wonder why they chose Nashville? I thought our new HQ was supposed to have a new OCC also.

I too thought new HQ was supposed to have OCC in the building.

RonnyK320 02-13-2020 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2976395)
I too thought new HQ was supposed to have OCC in the building.

That makes too much sense :)

SSlow 02-13-2020 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by FNGFO (Post 2976354)
The email said why. Less chance of a hurricane or other inclement weather/natural phenomena interrupting operations in the crystal palace.

I could be wrong, but I thought Nashville was subject to widespread power outages resulting from fairly harsh severe weather including storms and snow/ice events. You would think some place out in the desert, like say Phoenix or Vegas would be better protected from weather events.

FNGFO 02-13-2020 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by SSlow (Post 2976414)
I could be wrong, but I thought Nashville was subject to widespread power outages resulting from fairly harsh severe weather including storms and snow/ice events. You would think some place out in the desert, like say Phoenix or Vegas would be better protected from weather events.

I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest that whatever building they’re going to use will be required to have robust generator backup. Snow and ice can be problematic, but you’re probably not going to find your neighborhood missing following the event as you could with a strong hurricane.

FLYBOYMATTHEW 02-13-2020 05:23 PM

It's being converted into a ballroom to host the Black & Yellow Balls.


Originally Posted by RonnyK320 (Post 2976398)
That makes too much sense :)


Super EZ E 02-13-2020 05:27 PM

It's about $$$. Things are CHEAP in BNA! The city is growing!! Very interesting to say the least.

Cefiro 02-13-2020 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by Super EZ E (Post 2976446)
It's about $$$. Things are CHEAP in BNA! The city is growing!! Very interesting to say the least.

BNA isn’t that cheap, seems weird to put it in a city Spirit has been flying out of for 4 months.

Omniscient 02-13-2020 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by Cefiro (Post 2976457)
BNA isn’t that cheap, seems weird to put it in a city Spirit has been flying out of for 4 months.

How does that matter? All they need is their FLL-BNA flight and they are set.

LandGreen 02-13-2020 06:10 PM

Ted likes to sing songs on his guitar. Nashville is a perfect choice.

ps2sunvalley 02-13-2020 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by Super EZ E (Post 2976446)
It's about $$$. Things are CHEAP in BNA! The city is growing!! Very interesting to say the least.



You haven’t been to Nashville in the last 5 years. Real estate is booming there


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awacs 02-13-2020 06:36 PM

Allegiant BNA pilot base.....
 
We beat you to it.

TrojanCMH 02-13-2020 06:38 PM

I’m guessing it had to do with some kind of government/tax incentive. Vegas, Detroit, Dallas and Chicago are all bases with no hurricanes and make more sense than Nashville. It has to do with money...


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BeechedJet 02-13-2020 06:48 PM

They didn’t even think of the average TORCON in BNA.

flyjbh 02-13-2020 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by SSlow (Post 2976414)
I could be wrong, but I thought Nashville was subject to widespread power outages resulting from fairly harsh severe weather including storms and snow/ice events. You would think some place out in the desert, like say Phoenix or Vegas would be better protected from weather events.

Nashville is on the "Smart Grid"..... It doesn't quit.

flyjbh 02-13-2020 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by ps2sunvalley (Post 2976486)
You haven’t been to Nashville in the last 5 years. Real estate is booming there


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I second that. I build houses in Chattanooga and we are booming at $190/SqFt on housing being a good deal. Nashville is around 220/sqft. The town is growing like Spirit. Also, I heard we will be getting multiple new gates there so the idea of a central US crew base in BNA isn't as crazy as you think!
J

Shakinthefat 02-13-2020 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by Super EZ E (Post 2976446)
It's about $$$. Things are CHEAP in BNA! The city is growing!! Very interesting to say the least.

The Spirit OCC will not be in the city or County of Nashville. It will be located in Williamson county (Franklin/Brentwood).
Average home price per Zillow....$499,000. I guess that’s cheap if you are moving from California!
https://www.bestplaces.net/cost_of_l...see/williamson
Housing is very expensive, traffic along I65 corridor is miserable during rush hour.
Williamson County is known to offer big temporary tax cuts to businesses that locate there. Nissan American relocated their from Cali.
Typical SE US weather, a few tornadoes here and there, ice storm every 3-4 years.
BNA employee parking for commuters is $300/yr.

Shakinthefat 02-13-2020 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by awacs (Post 2976494)
We beat you to it.

Nope, AA had a pilot base there years ago. Pulled out SWA took over gates, but no pilot base.

SonicFlyer 02-13-2020 08:05 PM

By car Nashville is 1 day's drive from 80% of the US population. It's a right to work state, no income tax and is still a lot less expensive than other major metropolitan areas. Although that is changing since the most recent country wide mass migration happening.

Super EZ E 02-13-2020 10:57 PM

Actually I be in BNA today, Well aware of what's going on in BNA. Over all it's cheap. Taxes are low and homes are cheap. Look at the dollar per square foot price on homes. Clearly a lot of people think I'm correct or they wouldn't be moving in, Click on the link above someone posted. $500k is the median price not the average! Big difference. Look at the taxes on $400k! $2400 a YEAR!! That's CHEAP!! Price per sq/ft runs $124! Thats cheap!!

RemoveB4flght 02-13-2020 11:07 PM

They could outsource OCC to India and the next day there would be pilot rumors of 350’s and flights to Mumbai

Unless you have been around long enough to have gone through training in Miramar, most pilots have been there what, twice? Initial new hires and Upgrade, neither visit was really productive or necessary.

Soldier64 02-14-2020 02:04 AM


Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght (Post 2976566)
They could outsource OCC to India and the next day there would be pilot rumors of 350’s and flights to Mumbai

Unless you have been around long enough to have gone through training in Miramar, most pilots have been there what, twice? Initial new hires and Upgrade, neither visit was really productive or necessary.

We don’t even go there as a new hire anymore. That said, I’m still hoping for a BNA base even if it’s unlikely for a while.

Macjet 02-14-2020 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by Soldier64 (Post 2976572)
We don’t even go there as a new hire anymore. That said, I’m still hoping for a BNA base even if it’s unlikely for a while.

Most upgrades haven't either.

KCJake 02-14-2020 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by Soldier64 (Post 2976572)
We don’t even go there as a new hire anymore. That said, I’m still hoping for a BNA base even if it’s unlikely for a while.

I went there as a new hire six months ago.

SSlow 02-14-2020 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by flyjbh (Post 2976506)
I heard we will be getting multiple new gates there so the idea of a central US crew base in BNA isn't as crazy as you think!
J

Not to burst your bubble but we already have one of those in DFW

FNGFO 02-14-2020 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by SSlow (Post 2976644)
Not to burst your bubble but we already have one of those in DFW

Anything West of the Mississippi is still wild and unexplored country to the braintrust whereas BNA isn’t that far from the greater Ohio River Valley.

Soldier64 02-15-2020 03:33 AM


Originally Posted by KCJake (Post 2976624)
I went there as a new hire six months ago.

I started about a month ago and they told us they stopped going there for NH as it was a waste of a day. The people come to us during class when they can now.

flyjbh 02-15-2020 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SSlow (Post 2976644)
Not to burst your bubble but we already have one of those in DFW



You also have AA in DFW. I’m not sure why that base hasn’t moved to IAH. DFW is more south than central US when it comes to air travel.


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SSlow 02-15-2020 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by flyjbh (Post 2977311)
You also have AA in DFW. I’m not sure why that base hasn’t moved to IAH. DFW is more south than central US when it comes to air travel.


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I agree about AA, but I wouldn't say BNA is any more central than DFW. Texas is about as central is it gets when connecting coast to coast bases. I think this is just another classic case of pilots trying to conjure up any kind of personal theory that might make sense for why the company should put a domicile in XYZ location because it benefits them personally. At the end of the day they won't do it unless there is some huge cost advantage to doing so, which is greatly welcomed.

Hell I wish we had a domicile in AUS, and I won't even BS you trying to hamster up some weird argument for it. My reasons are purely selfish because my family lives there.

Omniscient 02-15-2020 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by flyjbh (Post 2977311)
You also have AA in DFW. I’m not sure why that base hasn’t moved to IAH. DFW is more south than central US when it comes to air travel.


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Move what base, DFW? Close DFW and open IAH because DFW has AA and that IAH is further south? Have you heard of United in IAH? They are kind of like the AA of Dallas, but in Houston.

Something tells me the fact BNA is an OCC location, youre getting your Tennessee hopes up high trying to justify it as the "central base," and to justify that, DFW needs to go even further south, to be the south base...sound about right?

squawkoff 02-16-2020 05:48 AM

It will be curious how many employees that man the OCC do not make the move from south Florida. I’d bet Spirit will not pay for their move or pay very little. We may get a whole new group of dispatchers when this thing gets up and running.

FNGFO 02-16-2020 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by squawkoff (Post 2977959)
It will be curious how many employees that man the OCC do not make the move from south Florida. I’d bet Spirit will not pay for their move or pay very little. We may get a whole new group of dispatchers when this thing gets up and running.

That’s orobably part of the plan. Move the office to a desirable location, and recruit inexpensive young talent to replace those who can’t or won’t leave South Florida.

Omniscient 02-16-2020 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by squawkoff (Post 2977959)
It will be curious how many employees that man the OCC do not make the move from south Florida. I’d bet Spirit will not pay for their move or pay very little. We may get a whole new group of dispatchers when this thing gets up and running.

Dispatchers are unionized; so hopefully they have some relocation language in their contract.

Qotsaautopilot 02-16-2020 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2977993)
Dispatchers are unionized; so hopefully they have some relocation language in their contract.

I was thinking they’d be the only group that would move. Everyone else that isn’t in a management roll probably won’t.

Shakinthefat 02-16-2020 08:53 AM

BNA president said in a tweet that the salary range for Spirit OCC jobs will be 60-70k/yr.
Besides dispatchers there are load planners and meteorologists in a typical OCC, then support staff.
Not sure how many Florida OCC employees would pick up and move for a 60k job.

RemoveB4flght 02-16-2020 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by Shakinthefat (Post 2978072)
BNA president said in a tweet that the salary range for Spirit OCC jobs will be 60-70k/yr.
Besides dispatchers there are load planners and meteorologists in a typical OCC, then support staff.
Not sure how many Florida OCC employees would pick up and move for a 60k job.

Most probably won’t move, but that salary would likely go a lot further in Tennessee than south Fl


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