Your response, rational or not, doesn’t matter. You belief as to whether this is politically motivated doesn’t matter. The train is already off the rails. Gonna have to let the train wreck happen until sanity returns and then try to get thing back on track.

Or you can scream all day about how this isn’t nearly as big a deal as it’s made out to be only to be ignored by a panicked public.

just my 2 cents but our medical system is not nearly as advanced as others and it starts with the way people are able to access care.
with that being said we need to be smart about containment but that also of course is not coming from trump or anyone else in this administration.
Long waits in airports for example across the country where you are enclosing people tightly together to test them. social distancing is not a term our current government understands.
This will be way way worse. I hope if it gets to a point of furloughs that we all take a 50% cut for example in lines just so that nobody is on the street without healthcare if and when they get sick for themselves and their family. Were in it together folks

Stopped watching when he said: "In China they're headed back to work, BUT ITS GOING TO COME BACK".

They're is nothing you can do to stop this has been the contention of many, it will run its course. What I didn't think about was the overrun of our hospitals and the only thing we can do is slow it down. However, at what cost? Personally, and my opinion is worth about as much as my 401k now, we should be doing as China did. Build temporary hospitals, keep the most at risk as protected as possible and the rest of us work. It's a child like fantasy if you think 3 to 4 weeks of no school, sports or skiing is really going to fix this situation. It's also childish to think the government can afford to take care of us all for 12-18 months until a vaccine is produced. If we continue down the route we're headed, we will be broke and sick, instead of just being sick.

Enjoy your day as they may be few.

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exactly this, reverse quarantine

You obviously have no experience whatsoever with the Italian medical system.

nailed it.........

Social media and the 24hr news cycle certainly hasn’t helped

Did you even get hired at Spirit? Last I heard you were trying to jump for Blu?

https://i.ibb.co/TMczkjR/A87308-A7-2...85-EA90-D4.jpg

Epidemics - even pandemics - always go away. They may go away because the people most at risk (high population density) all get it and either become immune or die, because isolation and social distancing and other measures become effective enough to get transmission below 1 per existing case. Even the great Spanish Flu epidemic eventually burned itself out.

Hang in there, don’t panic, and take care of those you love. This too will pass.

Delta announces suspension of service to GUA, Quito, and St. Maarten. Just FYI.

Did you? In Florida alone, 104 infected and 4 died. That’s nearly 4% mortality rate. Swine flu was less than 1% with the numbers above and nation/worldwide the numbers are not much different.

Coronavirus doesn’t show symptoms for nearly a week so you could be spreading it and not know it. Hopefully, everyone you come in contact with is young and healthy. And unfortunately tests aren’t easily available because someone a few months refused to get worldwide accepted cheap testing kits from the W.H.O. to help contain this before Disney World had to close and March madness suspended. Then people blame social media for the panic at the same time spreading misinformation from it like- the virus doesn't like sunlight- like it’s a Gremlin and a president that says if you’re sick just go to work. So people are panicking and the stock market is tumbling for legitimate reasons.

Well I know 2 of those places aren't taking any planes from the States..so we wont be going to GUA or GYE either..not sure about SXM

Starting on the 17th, Ecuador is not allowing flights, also, Guatemala and Columbia starting tomorrow will be shutting down flights from the US as well. It’s not just Delta, it’s everyone.

This is the exact problem driving the hysteria. I agree that Covid19 is bad, the damage to the economy is 10x worse. You cant look at 104 case, 4 dead, 4% morality. How many people have COVID and are home and not reported, how many have it and they think its a cold because it can have symptoms of a mild cold? How many have it but no way to get a test (there aren't enough tests). Point is its a highly inaccurate sample size when you only compare those who had symptoms, went to the doctor, found a test and was tested. Truth is, there are tens of thousands with COVID right now, but wont be diagnosed for a variety of reasons.

In Fact, healthy adults have zero business going to the doctor to even get tested if they have the symptoms that are mild or moderate. Health care system is at its limits because everyone is racing there to get a test that they dont have, to confirm they have or dont have something there isnt a cure for.

My in laws live in FL. My mother in law is a teacher. Her symptoms are dead nuts on for "the virus". "Everyone at school is coughing too". Still going out and about...to a movie...dinner out (buffet, no joke)...list goes on...refuses to get tested...

This thing is everywhere...the Princess Cruise ship had a 0.7% mortality rate...and that was without quick access to medical care....someone needs to step up and put a stop to this madness.

Excellent post and you bring up some very valid points. I find it interesting that with regard to Spirit pilots and our COVID 19 MOU, we are supposed to call in sick if we have symptoms but will only be pay protected if tested positive for the virus. We have a young and robust pilot group, so most of our pilots that catch it will likely fall into the mild/moderate flu symptom group. Good luck getting a test done in Florida if you fall into that group, because like you said there just aren't enough tests to go around.

Guess you've never ran around China before? I have. Then you'll understand how this crap starts. I don't worry about a nasty case of the Flu. Sorry my balls dropped long ago. BTW clearly you don't understand the Medical system in Italy or you wouldn't make the post. Hint no system in the World is designed for a Pandemic. Clearly we've completely forgot about H1N1. I was in China during that event. Still walking the earth. Some are going to die and clearly many haven't. This bad boy is going to run it's course. So what!

hey look we agree

Ahhhh, yup. There’s the rub. It is like the legend; if you catch a leprechaun, he has to give you his gold...but you can’t find one to catch. If you test positive for COVID, you get paid leave..but you can’t find a test to take.

Man, reading these last few pages really reminded me why my therapist told me to stay off APC

week, I thought I told you to stay away from APC during your appointment two weeks ago!

Wait, you wouldn't say we aren't doing nothing? I think that is what I said but I am not sure...

Not enough. If you look at Wuhan, death rate 4% because it took them a while to shut everything down and by then the hospitals where overwhelmed. Surrounding areas were shut down completely, people kept in their houses, and mortality around 1%.

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coron...e-f4d3d9cd99ca

from the article:
If you have deaths in your region, you can use that to guess the number of true current cases. We know approximately how long it takes for that person to go from catching the virus to dying on average (17.3 days). That means the person who died on 2/29 in Washington State probably got infected around 2/12.

Then, you know the mortality rate. For this scenario, I’m using 1% (we’ll discuss later the details). That means that, around 2/12, there were already around ~100 cases in the area (of which only one ended up in death 17.3 days later).

Now, use the average doubling time for the coronavirus (time it takes to double cases, on average). It’s 6.2. That means that, in the 17 days it took this person to die, the cases had to multiply by ~8 (=2^(17/6)). That means that, if you are not diagnosing all cases, one death today means 800 true cases today.

Washington state has today 22 deaths. With that quick calculation, you get ~16,000 true coronavirus cases today(in the state of Washington alone!!. Article is from March 10th, and cases double every 6 days)

Call me any name you want, but I truly think there will be a total grounding of passenger air travel.

Uh, China pretty much shutdown completely, from North to South, for several weeks. They are just now slowly starting to get back to work, after almost two months.

Is Tomas Pueyo a medical doctor?

No, and that is probably good, as statistical analysis isn't really a job for a doctor.