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RuttR 03-15-2020 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by Mtnbikemike (Post 2998918)
The CDC reported that swine flu infected 61 million people in the United States and caused over 12,000 deaths. Worldwide, up to 575,400 people died from pandemic swine flu. Yet, we hardly heard a peep about that in 2009 despite the pandemic it was. Guess who just was elected?
it’s an election year folks. Everyone please put this in perspective.

Did you? In Florida alone, 104 infected and 4 died. That’s nearly 4% mortality rate. Swine flu was less than 1% with the numbers above and nation/worldwide the numbers are not much different.

Coronavirus doesn’t show symptoms for nearly a week so you could be spreading it and not know it. Hopefully, everyone you come in contact with is young and healthy. And unfortunately tests aren’t easily available because someone a few months refused to get worldwide accepted cheap testing kits from the W.H.O. to help contain this before Disney World had to close and March madness suspended. Then people blame social media for the panic at the same time spreading misinformation from it like- the virus doesn't like sunlight- like it’s a Gremlin and a president that says if you’re sick just go to work. So people are panicking and the stock market is tumbling for legitimate reasons.

Omniscient 03-15-2020 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by ASAPsafetyGUY (Post 2999427)
Delta announces suspension of service to GUA, Quito, and St. Maarten. Just FYI.

Well I know 2 of those places aren't taking any planes from the States..so we wont be going to GUA or GYE either..not sure about SXM

Mtnbikemike 03-15-2020 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by ASAPsafetyGUY (Post 2999427)
Delta announces suspension of service to GUA, Quito, and St. Maarten. Just FYI.

Starting on the 17th, Ecuador is not allowing flights, also, Guatemala and Columbia starting tomorrow will be shutting down flights from the US as well. It’s not just Delta, it’s everyone.

Omniscient 03-15-2020 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by RuttR (Post 2999433)
Did you? In Florida alone, 104 infected and 4 died. That’s nearly 4% mortality rate. Swine flu was less than 1% with the numbers above and nation/worldwide the numbers are not much different.

Coronavirus doesn’t show symptoms for nearly a week so you could be spreading it and not know it. Hopefully, everyone you come in contact with is young and healthy. And unfortunately tests aren’t easily available because someone a few months refused to get worldwide accepted cheap testing kits from the W.H.O. to help contain this before Disney World had to close and March madness suspended. Then people blame social media for the panic at the same time spreading misinformation from it like- the virus doesn't like sunlight- like it’s a Gremlin and a president that says if you’re sick just go to work. So people are panicking and the stock market is tumbling for legitimate reasons.

This is the exact problem driving the hysteria. I agree that Covid19 is bad, the damage to the economy is 10x worse. You cant look at 104 case, 4 dead, 4% morality. How many people have COVID and are home and not reported, how many have it and they think its a cold because it can have symptoms of a mild cold? How many have it but no way to get a test (there aren't enough tests). Point is its a highly inaccurate sample size when you only compare those who had symptoms, went to the doctor, found a test and was tested. Truth is, there are tens of thousands with COVID right now, but wont be diagnosed for a variety of reasons.

In Fact, healthy adults have zero business going to the doctor to even get tested if they have the symptoms that are mild or moderate. Health care system is at its limits because everyone is racing there to get a test that they dont have, to confirm they have or dont have something there isnt a cure for.

Name User 03-15-2020 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2999463)
This is the exact problem driving the hysteria. I agree that Covid19 is bad, the damage to the economy is 10x worse. You cant look at 104 case, 4 dead, 4% morality. How many people have COVID and are home and not reported, how many have it and they think its a cold because it can have symptoms of a mild cold? How many have it but no way to get a test (there aren't enough tests). Point is its a highly inaccurate sample size when you only compare those who had symptoms, went to the doctor, found a test and was tested. Truth is, there are tens of thousands with COVID right now, but wont be diagnosed for a variety of reasons.

In Fact, healthy adults have zero business going to the doctor to even get tested if they have the symptoms that are mild or moderate. Health care system is at its limits because everyone is racing there to get a test that they dont have, to confirm they have or dont have something there isnt a cure for.

My in laws live in FL. My mother in law is a teacher. Her symptoms are dead nuts on for "the virus". "Everyone at school is coughing too". Still going out and about...to a movie...dinner out (buffet, no joke)...list goes on...refuses to get tested...

This thing is everywhere...the Princess Cruise ship had a 0.7% mortality rate...and that was without quick access to medical care....someone needs to step up and put a stop to this madness.

SSlow 03-15-2020 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2999463)
This is the exact problem driving the hysteria. I agree that Covid19 is bad, the damage to the economy is 10x worse. You cant look at 104 case, 4 dead, 4% morality. How many people have COVID and are home and not reported, how many have it and they think its a cold because it can have symptoms of a mild cold? How many have it but no way to get a test (there aren't enough tests). Point is its a highly inaccurate sample size when you only compare those who had symptoms, went to the doctor, found a test and was tested. Truth is, there are tens of thousands with COVID right now, but wont be diagnosed for a variety of reasons.

In Fact, healthy adults have zero business going to the doctor to even get tested if they have the symptoms that are mild or moderate. Health care system is at its limits because everyone is racing there to get a test that they dont have, to confirm they have or dont have something there isnt a cure for.

Excellent post and you bring up some very valid points. I find it interesting that with regard to Spirit pilots and our COVID 19 MOU, we are supposed to call in sick if we have symptoms but will only be pay protected if tested positive for the virus. We have a young and robust pilot group, so most of our pilots that catch it will likely fall into the mild/moderate flu symptom group. Good luck getting a test done in Florida if you fall into that group, because like you said there just aren't enough tests to go around.

Super EZ E 03-15-2020 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by Softpayman (Post 2998889)
We’re just getting started here. How would you explain Italy? A modern Western medical system as good as ours that is overwhelmed. Our cases are rapidly rising much like theirs was weeks ago.

Guess you've never ran around China before? I have. Then you'll understand how this crap starts. I don't worry about a nasty case of the Flu. Sorry my balls dropped long ago. BTW clearly you don't understand the Medical system in Italy or you wouldn't make the post. Hint no system in the World is designed for a Pandemic. Clearly we've completely forgot about H1N1. I was in China during that event. Still walking the earth. Some are going to die and clearly many haven't. This bad boy is going to run it's course. So what!

Qotsaautopilot 03-15-2020 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2999463)
This is the exact problem driving the hysteria. I agree that Covid19 is bad, the damage to the economy is 10x worse. You cant look at 104 case, 4 dead, 4% morality. How many people have COVID and are home and not reported, how many have it and they think its a cold because it can have symptoms of a mild cold? How many have it but no way to get a test (there aren't enough tests). Point is its a highly inaccurate sample size when you only compare those who had symptoms, went to the doctor, found a test and was tested. Truth is, there are tens of thousands with COVID right now, but wont be diagnosed for a variety of reasons.

In Fact, healthy adults have zero business going to the doctor to even get tested if they have the symptoms that are mild or moderate. Health care system is at its limits because everyone is racing there to get a test that they dont have, to confirm they have or dont have something there isnt a cure for.

hey look we agree

Omniscient 03-15-2020 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by SSlow (Post 2999483)
Excellent post and you bring up some very valid points. I find it interesting that with regard to Spirit pilots and our COVID 19 MOU, we are supposed to call in sick if we have symptoms but will only be pay protected if tested positive for the virus. We have a young and robust pilot group, so most of our pilots that catch it will likely fall into the mild/moderate flu symptom group. Good luck getting a test done in Florida if you fall into that group, because like you said there just aren't enough tests to go around.

Ahhhh, yup. There’s the rub. It is like the legend; if you catch a leprechaun, he has to give you his gold...but you can’t find one to catch. If you test positive for COVID, you get paid leave..but you can’t find a test to take.

week 03-15-2020 07:42 PM

Man, reading these last few pages really reminded me why my therapist told me to stay off APC


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