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Originally Posted by Mtnbikemike
(Post 2998918)
The CDC reported that swine flu infected 61 million people in the United States and caused over 12,000 deaths. Worldwide, up to 575,400 people died from pandemic swine flu. Yet, we hardly heard a peep about that in 2009 despite the pandemic it was. Guess who just was elected?
it’s an election year folks. Everyone please put this in perspective. Coronavirus doesn’t show symptoms for nearly a week so you could be spreading it and not know it. Hopefully, everyone you come in contact with is young and healthy. And unfortunately tests aren’t easily available because someone a few months refused to get worldwide accepted cheap testing kits from the W.H.O. to help contain this before Disney World had to close and March madness suspended. Then people blame social media for the panic at the same time spreading misinformation from it like- the virus doesn't like sunlight- like it’s a Gremlin and a president that says if you’re sick just go to work. So people are panicking and the stock market is tumbling for legitimate reasons. |
Originally Posted by ASAPsafetyGUY
(Post 2999427)
Delta announces suspension of service to GUA, Quito, and St. Maarten. Just FYI.
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Originally Posted by ASAPsafetyGUY
(Post 2999427)
Delta announces suspension of service to GUA, Quito, and St. Maarten. Just FYI.
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Originally Posted by RuttR
(Post 2999433)
Did you? In Florida alone, 104 infected and 4 died. That’s nearly 4% mortality rate. Swine flu was less than 1% with the numbers above and nation/worldwide the numbers are not much different.
Coronavirus doesn’t show symptoms for nearly a week so you could be spreading it and not know it. Hopefully, everyone you come in contact with is young and healthy. And unfortunately tests aren’t easily available because someone a few months refused to get worldwide accepted cheap testing kits from the W.H.O. to help contain this before Disney World had to close and March madness suspended. Then people blame social media for the panic at the same time spreading misinformation from it like- the virus doesn't like sunlight- like it’s a Gremlin and a president that says if you’re sick just go to work. So people are panicking and the stock market is tumbling for legitimate reasons. In Fact, healthy adults have zero business going to the doctor to even get tested if they have the symptoms that are mild or moderate. Health care system is at its limits because everyone is racing there to get a test that they dont have, to confirm they have or dont have something there isnt a cure for. |
Originally Posted by Omniscient
(Post 2999463)
This is the exact problem driving the hysteria. I agree that Covid19 is bad, the damage to the economy is 10x worse. You cant look at 104 case, 4 dead, 4% morality. How many people have COVID and are home and not reported, how many have it and they think its a cold because it can have symptoms of a mild cold? How many have it but no way to get a test (there aren't enough tests). Point is its a highly inaccurate sample size when you only compare those who had symptoms, went to the doctor, found a test and was tested. Truth is, there are tens of thousands with COVID right now, but wont be diagnosed for a variety of reasons.
In Fact, healthy adults have zero business going to the doctor to even get tested if they have the symptoms that are mild or moderate. Health care system is at its limits because everyone is racing there to get a test that they dont have, to confirm they have or dont have something there isnt a cure for. This thing is everywhere...the Princess Cruise ship had a 0.7% mortality rate...and that was without quick access to medical care....someone needs to step up and put a stop to this madness. |
Originally Posted by Omniscient
(Post 2999463)
This is the exact problem driving the hysteria. I agree that Covid19 is bad, the damage to the economy is 10x worse. You cant look at 104 case, 4 dead, 4% morality. How many people have COVID and are home and not reported, how many have it and they think its a cold because it can have symptoms of a mild cold? How many have it but no way to get a test (there aren't enough tests). Point is its a highly inaccurate sample size when you only compare those who had symptoms, went to the doctor, found a test and was tested. Truth is, there are tens of thousands with COVID right now, but wont be diagnosed for a variety of reasons.
In Fact, healthy adults have zero business going to the doctor to even get tested if they have the symptoms that are mild or moderate. Health care system is at its limits because everyone is racing there to get a test that they dont have, to confirm they have or dont have something there isnt a cure for. |
Originally Posted by Softpayman
(Post 2998889)
We’re just getting started here. How would you explain Italy? A modern Western medical system as good as ours that is overwhelmed. Our cases are rapidly rising much like theirs was weeks ago.
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Originally Posted by Omniscient
(Post 2999463)
This is the exact problem driving the hysteria. I agree that Covid19 is bad, the damage to the economy is 10x worse. You cant look at 104 case, 4 dead, 4% morality. How many people have COVID and are home and not reported, how many have it and they think its a cold because it can have symptoms of a mild cold? How many have it but no way to get a test (there aren't enough tests). Point is its a highly inaccurate sample size when you only compare those who had symptoms, went to the doctor, found a test and was tested. Truth is, there are tens of thousands with COVID right now, but wont be diagnosed for a variety of reasons.
In Fact, healthy adults have zero business going to the doctor to even get tested if they have the symptoms that are mild or moderate. Health care system is at its limits because everyone is racing there to get a test that they dont have, to confirm they have or dont have something there isnt a cure for. |
Originally Posted by SSlow
(Post 2999483)
Excellent post and you bring up some very valid points. I find it interesting that with regard to Spirit pilots and our COVID 19 MOU, we are supposed to call in sick if we have symptoms but will only be pay protected if tested positive for the virus. We have a young and robust pilot group, so most of our pilots that catch it will likely fall into the mild/moderate flu symptom group. Good luck getting a test done in Florida if you fall into that group, because like you said there just aren't enough tests to go around.
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Man, reading these last few pages really reminded me why my therapist told me to stay off APC
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