you clean the effin carpet? What kind of weirdo are you?

I’m just picturing the scenes from Gattaca of cleaning out the keyboard.

In Mexico, you can ask the person with backpack vacuum to give it a once over. Makes you realize how filthy it really is...

Ok, so to me it sounds like you’re in the .00001% of pilots that think a clean cockpit is what you’re describing. The rest of us just clean up our trash and leave the cockpit tidy for the next crew.

One who doesn’t enjoy sitting in others’ filth.

Always a good strategy.


Tidy meaning covered in dirt, grime and crumbs on the floor?

It takes very little effort to maintain some semblance of relative cleanliness in our workspace. People would look at you, rightfully so, as a psycho if you tolerated that kind of mess and any other part of your life.

Give it a try. Actually wipe up that coffee you spilled on the pedestal or sidewalk. Maybe wipe down a panel. Get crazy and ask someone to clean the carpet or, perish the thought, do it yourself.

A clean and professional work space goes a bit beyond “ we picked up our paperwork before we left”.

If there are no means available then so be it. That’s rarely the case.

I get what you’re saying and that’s great and all, but seriously, how do you clean the carpet yourself?

There’s usually some form of vacuum cleaner available. Either one someone will use or one you can use yourself. A broom will get the worst of it that’s at least visible to the public and crew. The crumb buster is...essentially useless. In another life I wrapped my hand in tape as a redneck Dustbuster.

Sometimes there isn’t time. Sometimes there isn't equipment, or it’s defective or defunct. Sometimes the mess is beyond all reasonable means of cleaning. There are ways to have that remedied. Just do what you can which is almost always more than nothing.

I know all of us would be ****ed and on the phone if we found our hotel rooms covered in grit and the floors awash in crumbs and trash. “But we picked up the dirty towels and made the beds...” wouldn’t be an acceptable response from the manager. A ride share would get a poor review as would most restaurants. Most of us wouldn’t dare show our vehicle or residence in such a condition on a date or even to family. I don’t know why it’s considered acceptable on a professional flight deck.

So so I do what I can. I wish more would.

You dont bust crumbs?

Before your time but about 5 years ago someone decided to put a hand broom and dust pan in the cockpits and it was labeled "crumb buster" by the company. I always wondered who the heck would use the thing, I guess FNGFO does...Good on him...just not something im doing

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I respect that. I’ll continue to clean up after myself but not going this far. But 100% respect your hustle.


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The funny thing is that if the occasional effort were applied almost no one would have to do it.

I was honestly hoping you were going to say you brought a dust buster vacuum.


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All good. I’m not giving the other guy stink eye or dog cussing the previous crew.

I save that for the d*mn dirty apes who close all the vents and make me dig the rudder pedals off the forward stops because they don't realize that they don’t work as well on the more experienced birds.

Had to stop that when they cracked down on hot plates on the flight deck......

this is funny...because its true...

Sounds like a primer for life

That someone was the COO (JB) and it was in response to some guys giving the company lip that the cockpits were filthy (yes, they’ve been this way for years). Gotta say it was well played.

It’s Cap-Haitian btw. But don’t worry, everyone like to and an “e”

and apparently you don't like the "D".....

Sorry

or do I like the “D” ? ;)

https://www.flightglobal.com/strateg...144297.article

I am happy for our CEO calling for the end to the mandatory mask rule. I see another CEO speaking up and hopefully this will be optional soon.

its good to see the “higher-up” people thinking this mask thing need to go as we head into the summer.

Why do we still have to wear them in the training center then?

maybe because the facility wants/requires it?

Our class barely wore them, as in only when the boss man was roaming around. Never wore them in the sim center.

on a recent trip...multiple cities...Nobody (pilots or non-pilots) wore them on the shuttle to and from the airport, in the hotel, and a lot of people even walking around the terminal. Lots of Ramp crews, cops and other airport employees don’t even wore them. Nobody, I say it again, nobody cared!

then it hit me...I just realized the only people who did care are the Flight Attendants and Gate Agents, and again they are super strict. Is that mask is a millimeter below your nose??? Get your mask on now Sir!!!

people are ready to move on...

While in uniform, I wear mine in lobbies, vans, in the airport, and while greeting passengers. Gotta lead by example, and if the Captain isn’t doing it, then how can he have the ‘authority’ to tell someone else what to do??? Out of uniform, I don’t wear it at all, fully vaxed and my giveadamn is broken....

100%. Agreed

I have been continuously amazed at the vigor of the gate agents and FA’s picky enforcement of this mandate.
Are they really under that much scrutiny that when the diaper slides down a fraction of an inch they get busted?
Or is that group of employees simply that scared of this thing.
Pilots almost to a one don’t give two ****s anymore, if they ever did.

I wear it at the airport. No more vans or hotels for me, as I have seen most have removed the mask signs. Like most of us, I toss it off once on the flight deck as I will be “actively drinking” my entire time up there. Comes a point when I get tired of making MCDU input errors because of a mask obstructing my view below.


It’s time we get back to normalcy so unless there is a law asking for masks being worn (airport), I don’t.

I’ve been vaccinated, so this is insane to keep wearing them in airports and the plane.

I don’t lead by example for something I don’t care about... When a passengers isn’t wanting to wear a mask that gets on the plane. I’ll call the CRO and nobody will ever see me.

I have my COVID shot...so it doesn’t bother me what other people do.

While I agree it is time to get back to normal, I don’t get to make that call. Read file P20-044R specifically states what I am supposed to do, and I try to do things right. You do you.

Agreed, it seems the power has gone to their heads. I was commuting on a SWA flight recently and they actually got on the PA stating the next offense would have the police waiting when we landed.

The entire thing has gotten out of control and pulling out of the federal mandate can’t happen soon enough.

That is very admirable of you, but at this point it feels like a lost cause to be honest. I've noticed many airport employees and even police not wearing them anymore. People are over it and I seriously doubt they are looking at those of us in positions of authority to figure out how to act. That much is very apparent.

I'm just doing it because the boss says I have to wear one. No more, no less.

bro did you really just say you’re making MCDU input errors because you can’t see past your mask :D

Man’s wearing it like a blindfold

bro, how do you know, brah? Do you even bruh, bro?

Watch that mouth and get going on that walk around
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