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Usage of apu
Not sure about anyone else, but I have been disregarding the company’s guidance about how they want us to use the apu. I have been starting it and running the packs from the time I get on the plane until the time I walk off. My health and the high potential of being exposed is more of a concern than saving the company money at this point with apu fuel burns and cycles. Reason being is that I think the packs provide better air quality, more airflow and hospital grade hepa filters.
I have been on a dh today and yesterday and both times the crew is still sitting there waiting 15 mins prior with it 80* in the back before starting the apu. Just mind boggling being a company robot. |
Originally Posted by Mtnbikemike
(Post 3006071)
Not sure about anyone else, but I have been disregarding the company’s guidance about how they want us to use the apu. I have been starting it and running the packs from the time I get on the plane until the time I walk off. My health and the high potential of being exposed is more of a concern than saving the company money at this point with apu fuel burns and cycles. Reason being is that I think the packs provide better air quality, more airflow and hospital grade hepa filters.
I have been on a dh today and yesterday and both times the crew is still sitting there waiting 15 mins prior with it 80* in the back before starting the apu. Just mind boggling being a company robot. Have you thought about reaching out to the company with your ideas instead of APC? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
Originally Posted by Sheg0theD
(Post 3006072)
Have you thought about reaching out to the company with your ideas instead of APC?
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Originally Posted by Mtnbikemike
(Post 3006084)
Thought our Environmental Standards Committee would have thought of this, or our ALPA Safety committee would have offered guidance after the engine incident and with viruses floating around now. But I guess I’m the only genius that thinks about it filtering out 99.97% of particles in the air.
I totally agree with you, I have sent an email in to DW and the union. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
A box of Sani-Coms and some hand sanitizer in all the cockpits would be a nice gesture, too.
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Unless you bus is different from my bus, the HEPA filters are in the cabin recirc system not the pack outlet.
Makes sense if you think about it, no real need to filter outside air/pack air. |
Originally Posted by Mtnbikemike
(Post 3006071)
Not sure about anyone else, but I have been disregarding the company’s guidance about how they want us to use the apu. I have been starting it and running the packs from the time I get on the plane until the time I walk off. My health and the high potential of being exposed is more of a concern than saving the company money at this point with apu fuel burns and cycles. Reason being is that I think the packs provide better air quality, more airflow and hospital grade hepa filters.
I have been on a dh today and yesterday and both times the crew is still sitting there waiting 15 mins prior with it 80* in the back before starting the apu. Just mind boggling being a company robot. |
I sent an email to my base chief pilot a couple of days ago. However, it was regarding apu bleed use for water pressure and hand washing. No response so far, I’ll have to send one to the union.
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Originally Posted by DickBurns
(Post 3006168)
How do the packs provide better air quality? The ground air carts blast air from outside and the hepa filters work regardless of pack operation. They filter the recirc air. Open the vents if you want filtered air. If you're starting it because it's hot, that's different.
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I like when the sinks work too.
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China virus aside. If it’s hot and ground cart or jetway is inadequate use the apu. If you need water pressure for hand washing use APU.
so many line pilots don’t commute or DH very much. They have no idea how stagnant and hot it gets in the back of the plane waiting to hook up ground air. And being selfish pilots they get GPU connected and split instead of making sure row 30 is getting air. This is the main problem with not running the APU when parking. Well this and sucking up air hoses or people. I don’t leave or stop cooling until ground air is connected or more than 2/3 of the airplane is empty. |
Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
(Post 3006213)
China virus aside. If it’s hot and ground cart or jetway is inadequate use the apu. If you need water pressure for hand washing use APU.
so many line pilots don’t commute or DH very much. They have no idea how stagnant and hot it gets in the back of the plane waiting to hook up ground air. And being selfish pilots they get GPU connected and split instead of making sure row 30 is getting air. This is the main problem with not running the APU when parking. Well this and sucking up air hoses or people. I don’t leave or stop cooling until ground air is connected or more than 2/3 of the airplane is empty. |
Originally Posted by Mtnbikemike
(Post 3006204)
I think the packs provide way more airflow than the ground and gate carts. Less stagnant air sitting.
FWIW, I know we have our share of sheep around here, but there is no way I would allow a company "guideline" dictate my decision making in regards to the safety of pax or crew. If its to hot ......run the APU.......if your going into a station that routinely takes forever to hook ground power.......run the APU........ its not like your going to be flogged or something! |
Originally Posted by Mtnbikemike
(Post 3006071)
Not sure about anyone else, but I have been disregarding the company’s guidance about how they want us to use the apu. I have been starting it and running the packs from the time I get on the plane until the time I walk off. My health and the high potential of being exposed is more of a concern than saving the company money at this point with apu fuel burns and cycles. Reason being is that I think the packs provide better air quality, more airflow and hospital grade hepa filters.
I have been on a dh today and yesterday and both times the crew is still sitting there waiting 15 mins prior with it 80* in the back before starting the apu. Just mind boggling being a company robot. |
I run the APU on the ground now too, but I don’t do it for the air, I do it so that when pax are on the airplane, they have water to wash their hands... I rate that higher than air.
besides with the loads starting to drop off ground crews are asking 35-40 minutes prior to departure to disconnect power and air because they’re done loading the bags... |
Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
(Post 3006213)
China virus aside..
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
(Post 3006298)
do you make your own flows and profiles too because you are a genius and your way is a little better?
yup I do, lol |
Check your email. Run the APU if requested by FA’s. Unwad panties.
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Originally Posted by Poppachubby
(Post 3006297)
Sounds like your backtracking a little bit......now your concerned about more "airflow"? What happened to being the only "genius" that was looking to reduce particles by 99.97%? You come across as one of those guys that think their smarter than everyone else.
FWIW, I know we have our share of sheep around here, but there is no way I would allow a company "guideline" dictate my decision making in regards to the safety of pax or crew. If its to hot ......run the APU.......if your going into a station that routinely takes forever to hook ground power.......run the APU........ its not like your going to be flogged or something! |
Originally Posted by Mtnbikemike
(Post 3006371)
Not backtracking, lol. There are a whole list of reasons why I like to run the apu. If you prefer to not, fine. I’ll just be glad if I don’t DH on your flights.
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Jesus, and people are surprised when APC screen shots show up in lawsuits against a labor group. You people are idiots.
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The entire reason they went to eng 1 over APU is because guys put it on as soon as they land and run it the entire taxi to include waiting for rampers or a gate to open. Or they run it and get up and leave with it running for hours. Put it on when marshallers are in position and cut it when either you get ground air or 2/3 of the pax are off. Those of us in row 30 thank you.
Before push use it if you need water pressure or it gets warm or 10 prior whatever occurs first. they don’t care about cycles. It’s about irresponsible usage. This is not hard. Don’t make us sweat and don’t run it for hours |
Originally Posted by Mtnbikemike
(Post 3006371)
Not backtracking, lol. There are a whole list of reasons why I like to run the apu. If you prefer to not, fine. I’ll just be glad if I don’t DH on your flights.
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
(Post 3006516)
they don’t care about cycles. It’s about irresponsible usage. This is not hard. Don’t make us sweat and don’t run it for hours
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