Originally Posted by FNGFO (Post 3027221)

Spirit was in the 4% range for market share in 2019. Hence my curiosity about flying being added back in to closed stations.

Originally Posted by NKSpilot (Post 3027476)

Maybe FLL-MCO-TPA-RSW-FLL circle three times a week would fulfill the requirement for all those airports? Something like that would be the best way to minimize operating costs.

Originally Posted by CAirBear (Post 3027810)

Exactly. Even if we add another 40 flights a day to comply (not sure), even that isn’t much.

Originally Posted by GrillMaster (Post 3027807)

arent we currently doing 56 a day? How is that 10x what we are doing now?

Originally Posted by Rocinante (Post 3027845)

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A round robin like that would be an innovative way to meet the requirements and cut costs. It could be done in one FDP too.

So, some more very rough napkin math. Assuming a rough correlation of 4% market share to 4% grant entitlement, that's around $1 billion of grant money (25,000,000,000 * .04 = 1,000,000,000). I've seen numerous estimates on the flight hour cost of an A320, but generally in the $7000-$10,000 range. Assuming an average 2.5-hour block, and taking the middle of that operating cost range, we might be looking at ~$21,250 per flight (8,500 * 2.5). Suppose the company even had to double our current 56 flights per day to meet the government's requirements, that's an additional $1,190,000 per day (21,250 * 56), or $35,700,000 per month (1,190,000 * 30), or $214,200,000 for the six month period (35,700,000 * 6). Granted, this math is extremely crude, but ~1 Billion > ~250 Million.

Seems like they'd take the money?

Originally Posted by flyingpuma1 (Post 3027825)

Did you see the reason Spirit listed for not wanting to serve the airports they listed

“To the extent that the CARES Act support for contractors is not sufficient or properly distributed, Spirit may have to financially support contractors in certain markets, As of date of filing and based on publicly available future airline schedules, this city is well-served by numerous other airlines”

I’m doubtful that the govt will approve these exemptions because by this logic every airline could say “another airline goes there so I don’t need to.”


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Originally Posted by FNGFO (Post 3027871)

Well, the money can only allegedly be used for payroll. I guess they could plan to not spend whatever portion they don’t need for the six months and then use it for future payroll needs in a goofy numbers swap to make it look like it isn’t eventually used to cover operating expenses.

Originally Posted by Rocinante (Post 3027845)

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A round robin like that would be an innovative way to meet the requirements and cut costs. It could be done in one FDP too.

So, some more very rough napkin math. Assuming a rough correlation of 4% market share to 4% grant entitlement, that's around $1 billion of grant money (25,000,000,000 * .04 = 1,000,000,000). I've seen numerous estimates on the flight hour cost of an A320, but generally in the $7000-$10,000 range. Assuming an average 2.5-hour block, and taking the middle of that operating cost range, we might be looking at ~$21,250 per flight (8,500 * 2.5). Suppose the company even had to double our current 56 flights per day to meet the government's requirements, that's an additional $1,190,000 per day (21,250 * 56), or $35,700,000 per month (1,190,000 * 30), or $214,200,000 for the six month period (35,700,000 * 6). Granted, this math is extremely crude, but ~1 Billion > ~250 Million.

Seems like they'd take the money?

Originally Posted by Silver02ex (Post 3027854)

I will also add this. If you look at May’s schedule (just look up random cities that we stop serving now) MSP, PDX, DEN and so on. You will see that (as of now) we will start those back up in about 4-5 weeks. So if we don’t get the exemption, all we are doing is starting those stations back up earlier to meet the requirements. I just do t see us doing 56 flights a day in May based on current May’s schedule.

Originally Posted by NKSpilot (Post 3027476)

Maybe FLL-MCO-TPA-RSW-FLL circle three times a week would fulfill the requirement for all those airports? Something like that would be the best way to minimize operating costs.