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MtnPeakCruiser 04-08-2020 11:00 AM

DOT Final Order-Continuation Of Service
 
FYI fellas.

https://www.flightglobal.com/network...137799.article

FNGFO 04-08-2020 11:13 AM

Spirit was in the 4% range for market share in 2019. Hence my curiosity about flying being added back in to closed stations.

MCDUmanipulator 04-08-2020 12:02 PM

Guess we’re safe till October 1st at minimum

LandGreen 04-08-2020 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator (Post 3027249)
Guess we’re safe till October 1st at minimum

Uhh did spirit announce they are taking the grant?

Macjet 04-08-2020 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by LandGreen (Post 3027284)
Did spirit announce they are taking the grant?

That may be what the Town Hall is for tomorrow. I don't think we will. We'd have to bring a lot of airplanes out of storage and start operating more money losing flights. The grant money covers payroll and not operating costs. I could be wrong but we'll see tomorrow.

schmohawk 04-08-2020 01:53 PM

Back of napkin math , let’s say they do 45 flights a day in a slow down, multiplied by 30 days a month, divided by the number of requires flights per station as per the final order that was just issued (approx 14 at 3 a week) = 96 stations. I think in a 45 flights a day slow down , they could support flying to 96 stations , and keep in mind , international stations are excluded. I’m sure some routes will have higher yields than others , but they’ll probably ask for specific route exemptions like the Greensboro’s Richmond’s , and Asheville’s etc. If the service requirements are the main concern, I’d bet they take the money

NosirRe 04-08-2020 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by schmohawk (Post 3027321)
Back of napkin math , let’s say they do 45 flights a day in a slow down, multiplied by 30 days a month, divided by the number of requires flights per station as per the final order that was just issued (approx 14 at 3 a week) = 96 stations. I think in a 45 flights a day slow down , they could support flying to 96 stations , and keep in mind , international stations are excluded. I’m sure some routes will have higher yields than others , but they’ll probably ask for specific route exemptions like the Greensboro’s Richmond’s , and Asheville’s etc. If the service requirements are the main concern, I’d bet they take the money

Sure hope so. Its absolutely dumb to ask airlines to continue to operate empty. If the goal is to preserve jobs, how does one do that when they are burning money up elsewhere. I believe the intentions were good, but written hastefully with little knowledge as to how much airline loads would actually be affected.

That being said, I hope they are able to take the money, preserve our incomes for a period to come, and on the other side of this we come out and go back to growing as an airline.

Qotsaautopilot 04-08-2020 03:29 PM

It’s to keep the economy moving. Without the clause all the airlines would just shutdown for the next couple months and then no one would fly causing a kink in the commerce flow

NKSpilot 04-08-2020 05:17 PM

So every market we serve once daily - we would still have to go three times a week? This would only be a 57% cut in service. I can’t see this working with single digit passenger numbers. We are already at 90%.

And for the big airlines that are serving a market five flights a day - they only need to serve five times a week now. =86% reduction

Prepare for the bad news and furloughs

FNGFO 04-08-2020 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by NKSpilot (Post 3027462)
So every market we serve once daily - we would still have to go three times a week? This would only be a 57% cut in service. I can’t see this working with single digit passenger numbers. We are already at 90%.

And for the big airlines that are serving a market five flights a day - they only need to serve five times a week now. =86% reduction

Prepare for the bad news and furloughs

There’s still room for case by case exemptions as per the DOT final ruling, but we’d be doing considerably more flying than 56 trips per month.


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