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OpentimeVirus 05-05-2020 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by galleycafe (Post 3049443)
I wasn't there, but I definitely know what I would've done.

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You sound as tough as me, how does a tough guy handle this?

Ed Force One 05-05-2020 10:38 AM

So I'm gathering the moral of the story is "Divert in the state you were over when the incident occurred?"

Would there have been arrests if they had diverted to Omaha?

Phil Laschio 05-05-2020 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by YourMom (Post 3049070)
I'm hearing the victim was taken off and the assailants continued on to Detroit? How does that happen. And the cops did not arrest them after a savage beating? Out of their jurisdiction give me a break. This is horrible. Why are people scared to intervene? The guy could have died from multiple blows shown in the video.

Local cops claiming no jurisdiction? Explain to me how this is not a federal matter? In the air, between states....

Roy Biggins 05-05-2020 11:14 AM

Your Captain continued on with these thugs in the back? I’m literally speechless. I’m never one to second guess PIC decision making, but you have got to be fuqing kidding me. And the FO can’t speak up and say ‘uh Cap? No way’. This isn’t the press you need right now...smh

Qotsaautopilot 05-05-2020 11:30 AM

None of us were there so let’s all defer judgement. I’m pretty confident none of our captains would have let the assailant continue on after the diversion. Arrest or not and spirit station or not we still decide who stays or goes as the captain. You can walk the rest of the way as far as I’m concerned.

Also, any time any of us have had law enforcement meet us at the destination the locals have always handled it no matter what states sky we were over.

I think we are missing a lot of facts and relying on poor reporting on this case. Let’s keep that in mind.

Ed Force One 05-05-2020 11:52 AM

Against my better judgement I just watched the video, and I'm sorry, lack of facts or not, I would not let that assailant back on my plane. He punched repeatedly, violently and rapidly. And over what? A verbal argument? (This is where the lack of facts comes in, I suppose.)

I'm by no means a "tough guy" but there's no way I'd let that guy back on if I knew at the time that's what he did. And the fact that there is blood on the seats is good enough for me, "All the facts" or not.

galleycafe 05-05-2020 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by OpentimeVirus (Post 3049515)
You sound as tough as me, how does a tough guy handle this?

Oh I'm super tough. One look from my steely blue gaze...fuhgeddaboudit.

Just watch Zoolander; it's like a how-to manual for these sort of shenanigans.

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ASAPsafetyGUY 05-05-2020 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 3049603)
None of us were there so let’s all defer judgement. I’m pretty confident none of our captains would have let the assailant continue on after the diversion. Arrest or not and spirit station or not we still decide who stays or goes as the captain. You can walk the rest of the way as far as I’m concerned.

Also, any time any of us have had law enforcement meet us at the destination the locals have always handled it no matter what states sky we were over.

I think we are missing a lot of facts and relying on poor reporting on this case. Let’s keep that in mind.

So are you denying that it happened? Are insinuating that the crew of this particular flight didn't let the thugs (in my judgment) back on that Airbus? Going with what's been reported, there's no effing way I'd let those guys back on that plane. I don't care where we are. No thinking required.

Stryker172 05-05-2020 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by galleycafe (Post 3049628)
Oh I'm super tough. One look from my steely blue gaze...fuhgeddaboudit.

Just watch Zoolander; it's like a how-to manual for these sort of shenanigans.

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You challenging me to a walk off? Boo! Lander?

Qotsaautopilot 05-05-2020 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by Ed Force One (Post 3049619)
Against my better judgement I just watched the video, and I'm sorry, lack of facts or not, I would not let that assailant back on my plane. He punched repeatedly, violently and rapidly. And over what? A verbal argument? (This is where the lack of facts comes in, I suppose.)

I'm by no means a "tough guy" but there's no way I'd let that guy back on if I knew at the time that's what he did. And the fact that there is blood on the seats is good enough for me, "All the facts" or not.

I agree with you


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