Originally Posted by DrSteveBrule
(Post 3055100)
I fail to see the synergy of two soon-to-be broke companies like Spirit and JetBlue trying to make two entirely different business structures and two entirely differently outfitted fleets of 320s working together in a penny pinched market. Cant imagine the ULCC model losing in the long run, and I can't imagine a typical JetBlue customer squeezing into a Spirit aircraft. Frontier and Spirit on the other hand is already largely set up. I have no idea how Frontier's books are looking.
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Everyone is bleeding cash right now, wondering how they will make it past September without furloughs. Nearly all countries are still at very limited capacity and everyone is running out of money. You think we will really have the cash to continue what we were doing and rapidly expand to the South. We need cash and planes to do it. We definitely don’t have both.
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Strategy and speculation aside (merger). Spirit did implement a shareholder rights agreement to prevent any purchases 10% and over.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/sp...ing-2020-03-30 |
Originally Posted by Easybreezy
(Post 3055132)
Everyone is bleeding cash right now, wondering how they will make it past September without furloughs. Nearly all countries are still at very limited capacity and everyone is running out of money. You think we will really have the cash to continue what we were doing and rapidly expand to the South. We need cash and planes to do it. We definitely don’t have both.
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Originally Posted by DrSteveBrule
(Post 3055100)
I fail to see the synergy of two soon-to-be broke companies like Spirit and JetBlue trying to make two entirely different business structures and two entirely differently outfitted fleets of 320s working together in a penny pinched market. Cant imagine the ULCC model losing in the long run, and I can't imagine a typical JetBlue customer squeezing into a Spirit aircraft. Frontier and Spirit on the other hand is already largely set up. I have no idea how Frontier's books are looking.
Additionally, JB needs to densify our A321s to something closer to yours. Instead of our 200 seaters running NE-Florida we should have a 220 seater doing it. Same with our 162-seat A320s moving to something around 168-174 seats. The combined carrier wouldn't be a ULCC, but we would adopt some of the characteristics and become a lower cost LCC. And let's talk about FLL. We'd have an instant fortress hub, which has been a talking point of JB in recent years, with room to expand to S.America. While the higher cost legacies beat each other up down in MIA we could have some peace and quiet in FLL. |
Originally Posted by HanYolo
(Post 3055138)
Strategy and speculation aside (merger). Spirit did implement a shareholder rights agreement to prevent any purchases 10% and over.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/sp...ing-2020-03-30 |
Originally Posted by Flyby1206
(Post 3055213)
Let's not kid ourselves, it would mainly be about removing a competitor. NK is the toughest competition on our Florida routes.
Additionally, JB needs to densify our A321s to something closer to yours. Instead of our 200 seaters running NE-Florida we should have a 220 seater doing it. Same with our 162-seat A320s moving to something around 168-174 seats. The combined carrier wouldn't be a ULCC, but we would adopt some of the characteristics and become a lower cost LCC. And let's talk about FLL. We'd have an instant fortress hub, which has been a talking point of JB in recent years, with room to expand to S.America. While the higher cost legacies beat each other up down in MIA we could have some peace and quiet in FLL. |
Many of these posts seem to be written by people who WANT a merger/buyout with X airline.
Can someone postulate a situation where such a thing would benefit this pilot group? I've only seen one MAYBE two in the last 30 years that weren't a poopfest for all involved. Unless survival is on the line (in which case grab the lube- think Morris) we're better off alone. |
Originally Posted by Conquistador27
(Post 3055024)
I don’t think Europe would happen anytime soon either. But, the 321Neo XLR did 10.5 hours with 240 simulated passengers and bags. Seychelles to Toulouse. So it’s got the range.
https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/news...ng-flight.html |
Originally Posted by beverage
(Post 3055361)
Many of these posts seem to be written by people who WANT a merger/buyout with X airline.
Can someone postulate a situation where such a thing would benefit this pilot group? I've only seen one MAYBE two in the last 30 years that weren't a poopfest for all involved. Unless survival is on the line (in which case grab the lube- think Morris) we're better off alone. |
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