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Slowhawk 06-12-2020 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator (Post 3074716)
where was that big ventilator shortage everyone predicted?

A series of restrictions, stay at home orders, and social distancing guidelines were put into place which drastically reduced the transmission rate of the virus. Paired with increased ventilator production, this was enough to keep supply greater than demand

Excargodog 06-12-2020 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by Slowhawk (Post 3074732)
A series of restrictions, stay at home orders, and social distancing guidelines were put into place which drastically reduced the transmission rate of the virus. Paired with increased ventilator production, this was enough to keep supply greater than demand

in fact, tremendous damage was done by putting people who shouldn’t have been on ventilators on them.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ventil...ruse-1.5534097


https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/21/coronavirus-analysis-recommends-less-reliance-on-ventilators/


https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/nearly-90-of-covid-19-patients-put-on-ventilators-in-new-yorks-largest-health-system-died-study-finds/


part of the problem was that coronavirus patients don’t act like other patients with ARDS, but part of the problem was that most physicians and nursing staff are neither proficient in the use of Ventilators nor credentialed to maintain patients on ventilators.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/potent...ry?id=69907976

Short of general anesthesia, putting someone on a ventilator is about as hazardous a situation as you can get and demands many person-hours of highly skilled physician, nursing, and respiratory therapy care. Even with normal ARDS from other viruses and appropriate numbers of skilled personnel you lose about 40% of patients put on a ventilator. With COVID and misuse of ventilators, it was closer to 90% in some places - like NYC.


https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...-study-shows#1

putzin 06-13-2020 12:54 AM


Originally Posted by ASAPsafetyGUY (Post 3074718)
Really? That's what you got out of that message? Wow.

Oh, you're serious.

Ok then, so you'll be ok when someone shows up wearing a thin blue line mask or is trying to change the tag line to all lives matter instead of focusing on the injustice at hand? Many cannot discuss everyday politics or religion on the flight deck, let alone have a conversation about why some things need to be reformed.

There are places where statements need to be made, just about any other place, but the flight deck is not one of them given the current severe tensions on both sides.








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Halon1211 06-13-2020 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by ASAPsafetyGUY (Post 3074577)
Do we still have people calling the masks requirement an act of tyranny? Gosh I wonder what makes them happy. I actually want to wear a Black Lives Matter mask in uniform but I can't find one for purchase.

I have no problem wearing my white “live matter” mask

im spreading my awareness about all the white people that are murdered that the liberal media doesn’t seem to care about.

galleycafe 06-13-2020 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3074776)
I have no problem wearing my white “live matter” mask

im spreading my awareness about all the white people that are murdered that the liberal media doesn’t seem to care about.

You've applied a lateral comparison.

That is not permitted. You shall repent and explain why you're hateful and evil. Not my rules.

Plane Coffee

42jeff 06-13-2020 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3074776)
I have no problem wearing my white “live matter” mask

im spreading my awareness about all the white people that are murdered that the liberal media doesn’t seem to care about.

Your discontent has been noted Comrade Halon. Please report to the nearest rehabilitation center for processing.

Slowhawk 06-13-2020 06:31 AM

Why are y’all even having this discussion. PRF says “no statements or slogans” on the masks to be worn in uniform. Y’all can debate on wearing the one that says spirit or the one that doesn’t;)

Halon1211 06-13-2020 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by galleycafe (Post 3074788)
You've applied a lateral comparison.

That is not permitted. You shall repent and explain why you're hateful and evil. Not my rules.

Plane Coffee

***”White lives matter”

I noticed my error

galleycafe 06-13-2020 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3074819)
***”White lives matter”

I noticed my error

Happens to the best of us.

Plane Coffee

Mtnbikemike 06-13-2020 07:50 AM

Face masks are just another dumb measure just like hand sanitizer that turned out to be wrong because it isn’t a virus that you can get from surfaces very easily. Face masks only help if it’s a N95 mask and it is fitted to your face properly. CDC recommends people make and use masks from home. I’m guessing the micron level protection of your old sheets, underwear or bra are about as effective as a condom that is expired and has a .40 caliber hole in it. There is no more common sense and people can’t or are not allowed to decide what is best for them. It’s just asinine.


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