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Some Questions
1. Does anyone know what the training pay amount actually is? We all know the first year pay, but does that change during training?
2. When does seniority actually start relative to first year pay ending? Is it day one or after ioe? 3. Does insurance and family travel benefits start right away or is this a 90 day kind of thing? 4. In terms of bases, I have heard that you just want to get one that will allow a line the quickest, then dropping trips and picking up flying in a base that is better suited for your commute/pay. Do we have any idea which bases are junior right now or perhaps which ones generally go junior historically? 5. In regards to commuting, is there a specific commuting policy such as two attempts etc? 6. Who is the uniform supplier, MnH? Thank you all for the answers in advance and if you would prefer to PM that’s cool too. |
Originally Posted by Cyio
(Post 3207786)
1. Does anyone know what the training pay amount actually is? We all know the first year pay, but does that change during training?
$1750/month for 3 months or OE completion 2. When does seniority actually start relative to first year pay ending? Is it day one or after ioe? DOH 3. Does insurance and family travel benefits start right away or is this a 90 day kind of thing? health bennies are 90 days (I think). Travel is as soon as they get you in the system. 4. In terms of bases, I have heard that you just want to get one that will allow a line the quickest, then dropping trips and picking up flying in a base that is better suited for your commute/pay. Do we have any idea which bases are junior right now or perhaps which ones generally go junior historically? hard to say which are absolute junior as we haven’t had a base bud in a year but FLL and MCO are junior right now, DFW & LAS relatively senior. YMMV 5. In regards to commuting, is there a specific commuting policy such as two attempts etc? normally two attempts, one attempt until June as part of ‘rona MOUs 6. Who is the uniform supplier, MnH? HPI Thank you all for the answers in advance and if you would prefer to PM that’s cool too. filler!!!!!! |
Originally Posted by Cyio
(Post 3207786)
1. Does anyone know what the training pay amount actually is? We all know the first year pay, but does that change during training?
2. When does seniority actually start relative to first year pay ending? Is it day one or after ioe? 3. Does insurance and family travel benefits start right away or is this a 90 day kind of thing? 4. In terms of bases, I have heard that you just want to get one that will allow a line the quickest, then dropping trips and picking up flying in a base that is better suited for your commute/pay. Do we have any idea which bases are junior right now or perhaps which ones generally go junior historically? 5. In regards to commuting, is there a specific commuting policy such as two attempts etc? 6. Who is the uniform supplier, MnH? Thank you all for the answers in advance and if you would prefer to PM that’s cool too. 2. Seniority starts day one of training/indoc, oldest guy in your class is most senior. 3. Health insurance starts at 90 days. I think, and I may be wrong, travel on Spirit starts day one and then the zed fares start 90 days. Not 100% sure... 4. Bases change all the time. Not sure for FOs right now as I've stopped paying attention. 5. Usually our commuter clause is 2 flights on any airline, call after the first missed flight. But due to a Covid LOA, for the next couple months they only require 1 flight. 6. Not sure. Lots of people don't wear the company provided shirts or pants. |
new hires will go to MCO, FLL and LAS. DFW had basically a dead base for growth for years
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Originally Posted by king10pin02
(Post 3207815)
new hires will go to MCO, FLL and LAS. DFW had basically a dead base for growth for years
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FLL,DTW, MCO for new hires with 3 or 4 unlucky ones get ACY for a month.
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Originally Posted by Cyio
(Post 3207786)
4. In terms of bases, I have heard that you just want to get one that will allow a line the quickest, then dropping trips and picking up flying in a base that is better suited for your commute/pay. Do we have any idea which bases are junior right now or perhaps which ones generally go junior historically? |
Originally Posted by phly
(Post 3207925)
This is ill advised IMO until we know for sure that everything is okay and we really start to see the flying come back into open time every month. I live in ORD and am more happy to get whatever I can hold rather than dropping everything in another base and fighting the *BOTS* for open time.
Bots... FTFY |
Originally Posted by phly
(Post 3207925)
This is ill advised IMO until we know for sure that everything is okay and we really start to see the flying come back into open time every month. I live in ORD and am more happy to get whatever I can hold rather than dropping everything in another base and fighting the seagulls for open time.
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Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator
(Post 3207862)
FLL,DTW, MCO for new hires with 3 or 4 unlucky ones get ACY for a month.
Just before 'Rona, MCO was not junior enough - the last April/May hires all got DTW, FLL & ACY. only 1 involuntary ACY.. and training pay is $1000 taxable, 750 non taxable per-diem. - 90 days or release to line, whichever comes first |
Well they said MCO will be growing the most so I bet we see some new hires end up there this summer.
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Originally Posted by mcdumanipulator
(Post 3208087)
well they said mco will be growing the most so i bet we see some new hires end up there this summer.
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Originally Posted by TrojanCMH
(Post 3207794)
1. Training pay is $1750 a month I think but someone who has gone through it recently may be able to verify that.
2. Seniority starts day one of training/indoc, oldest guy in your class is most senior. 3. Health insurance starts at 90 days. I think, and I may be wrong, travel on Spirit starts day one and then the zed fares start 90 days. Not 100% sure... 4. Bases change all the time. Not sure for FOs right now as I've stopped paying attention. 5. Usually our commuter clause is 2 flights on any airline, call after the first missed flight. But due to a Covid LOA, for the next couple months they only require 1 flight. 6. Not sure. Lots of people don't wear the company provided shirts or pants.
Originally Posted by RonnyK320
(Post 3207828)
Eh... Probably DTW and ACY. I know bottom guys are waiting to bid out.
Originally Posted by phly
(Post 3207925)
This is ill advised IMO until we know for sure that everything is okay and we really start to see the flying come back into open time every month. I live in ORD and am more happy to get whatever I can hold rather than dropping everything in another base and fighting the seagulls for open time.
Originally Posted by spirited
(Post 3208081)
C'mon man - don't hate on ACY - the little base that could
Just before 'Rona, MCO was not junior enough - the last April/May hires all got DTW, FLL & ACY. only 1 involuntary ACY.. and training pay is $1000 taxable, 750 non taxable per-diem. - 90 days or release to line, whichever comes first |
Originally Posted by CLE to IAH
(Post 3208090)
this is orlando mayor buddy dyer
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3208167)
How dare you...........haha
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Originally Posted by king10pin02
(Post 3208173)
enjoy your orlando experience.....
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Originally Posted by king10pin02
(Post 3208173)
enjoy your orlando experience.....
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Originally Posted by king10pin02
(Post 3208173)
enjoy your orlando experience.....
Stick to your theme parks Orlando. |
Originally Posted by HanYolo
(Post 3208349)
Also lovely how he brings up major league sports....Uh yeah Magic... and...?
Stick to your theme parks Orlando. |
Can you drop reserve days with the green day/red day grid, or is that only for line holders? If so, is this something that you've always been able to do, or is it just temporarily allowed because of Covid?
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Originally Posted by travel22
(Post 3208779)
Can you drop reserve days with the green day/red day grid, or is that only for line holders? If so, is this something that you've always been able to do, or is it just temporarily allowed because of Covid?
If they let reserves do it as well they would lose the coverage protection that allows the entire system to function. |
Originally Posted by travel22
(Post 3208779)
Can you drop reserve days with the green day/red day grid, or is that only for line holders? If so, is this something that you've always been able to do, or is it just temporarily allowed because of Covid?
the middle, or swap a middle day to the end of the block, effectively turning a 6 day block into two 3 day blocks. Was absolutely glorious. It became an issue during negotiations when we were too lean and people dropped so they could get JRM trips. Was never ever an issue for the life of the contract up until that summer. Really is too bad. It completely changed the misery that “could potentially be Reserve”. That being said, for all the new guys & girls here, RSV really isnt all that bad. (For now). and welcome to all the new hires and those starting in the future, great group of people here. 👍🏼 |
Originally Posted by travel22
(Post 3208779)
Can you drop reserve days with the green day/red day grid, or is that only for line holders? If so, is this something that you've always been able to do, or is it just temporarily allowed because of Covid?
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Originally Posted by CLE to IAH
(Post 3208840)
right now we have reserve drops through May due to Covid, which is dangerous because I drop like mad LOL
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Because some of us have SCR and don't live in base!
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Why does DFW stay the most senior?
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Originally Posted by mkitrn
(Post 3208985)
Why does DFW stay the most senior?
it’s not that it’s incredibly senior... it actually isn’t. But there has been little to no growth there for a long time making it stagnant. No vacancies there and lots of peeps live in the DFW area.... not as many commuters. Thereby making it hard to get in |
Originally Posted by Halon1211
(Post 3208250)
Do they have an amazing performing arts center?
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Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator
(Post 3208932)
why drop? I was LCR Jan and Feb and flew one 2 day trip the entire time.
I’m commuting to short call (which I was already doing as a jr captain at a regional with poor work rules) and I have a family schedule and home life that is grateful for my temporary ability to spend some extra time taking kids to practice and birthday parties etc. so I take advantage of it while I can. im happily commuting to short call at my final destination airline, obviously.... and it’s a temporary inconvenience but while we have this temporary benefit, I’m using it to my advantage. |
Originally Posted by CLE to IAH
(Post 3209004)
I’m commuting to short call (which I was already doing as a jr captain at a regional with poor work rules) and I have a family schedule and home life that is grateful for my temporary ability to spend some extra time taking kids to practice and birthday parties etc. so I take advantage of it while I can.
im happily commuting to short call at my final destination airline, obviously.... and it’s a temporary inconvenience but while we have this temporary benefit, I’m using it to my advantage. |
Originally Posted by mkitrn
(Post 3208985)
Why does DFW stay the most senior?
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Originally Posted by FNGFO
(Post 3209063)
AAL, despite being something like $50B in debt, has found the time and resources to limit our ability to get gate space.
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Originally Posted by king10pin02
(Post 3209096)
re rona they were price matching most if our routes too so our yields were poor
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Originally Posted by nkbux
(Post 3209002)
it’s not that it’s incredibly senior... it actually isn’t. But there has been little to no growth there for a long time making it stagnant. No vacancies there and lots of peeps live in the DFW area.... not as many commuters. Thereby making it hard to get in
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Originally Posted by mkitrn
(Post 3208985)
Why does DFW stay the most senior?
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Fingers crossed I’ll get in there eventually!
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Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator
(Post 3209141)
aka it’s the most senior.
but latest vacancy has two DFW captains... a step in the right direction |
Originally Posted by nkbux
(Post 3209273)
Ummm no... by straight DOH it is not
but latest vacancy has two DFW captains... a step in the right direction |
Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3209289)
too bad once again the least amount of CA vacancies available from what I remember seeing.
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Originally Posted by RonnyK320
(Post 3209375)
ACY is zero. :(
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