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Jimdunbar 06-16-2021 07:36 AM

12 days off for 30 day months and 13 for 31 day months. Blocks of 6 on

MGuy 06-16-2021 07:54 AM

It might go without saying but you can bid reserve so that you don’t have a 6 day block. You also get minimums 4 days off between work blocks. That can be waived too.

Qotsaautopilot 06-16-2021 10:17 AM

12 on a 30 day month
13 on a 31 day month

must have at least 4 rsv days together execept first and last day or the month. Max of six

Qotsaautopilot 06-16-2021 12:33 PM

First and last week not day

Sike 06-16-2021 07:42 PM

Can you 'green drop' a block of reserve days, like trips?

VIRotate 06-16-2021 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by Sike (Post 3251035)
Can you 'green drop' a block of reserve days, like trips?

No you cannot.

Sike 06-16-2021 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by VIRotate (Post 3251040)
No you cannot.

Hah, I figured that would be the case.

Macjet 06-17-2021 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by Sike (Post 3251041)
Hah, I figured that would be the case.

It's well within the 'zone of reasonableness'.

gypsyzxc 06-17-2021 07:51 AM

I’m very excited to have a class date coming up later this summer. I’ll be commuting from a centrally located East coast city. I’m aware of the junior bases, but does anyone have suggestions for a commuter wanting the quickest path to a line?

Thanks in advance

Macjet 06-17-2021 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by gypsyzxc (Post 3251190)
I’m very excited to have a class date coming up later this summer. I’ll be commuting from a centrally located East coast city. I’m aware of the junior bases, but does anyone have suggestions for a commuter wanting the quickest path to a line?

Thanks in advance

MCO or FLL

CLE to IAH 06-17-2021 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by Macjet (Post 3251204)
MCO or FLL

certainly not MCO right now. I’d say DTW or FLL.

RonnyK320 06-17-2021 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by gypsyzxc (Post 3251190)
I’m very excited to have a class date coming up later this summer. I’ll be commuting from a centrally located East coast city. I’m aware of the junior bases, but does anyone have suggestions for a commuter wanting the quickest path to a line?

Thanks in advance

What city? Weird you put it that way...

gypsyzxc 06-17-2021 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by RonnyK320 (Post 3251236)
What city? Weird you put it that way...

Just trying to stay anonymous.

CLE to IAH 06-17-2021 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by gypsyzxc (Post 3251241)
Just trying to stay anonymous.

saying “I live in Charlotte” doesn’t exactly make your SSN visible to people….

Halon1211 06-17-2021 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 3251256)
saying “I live in Charlotte” doesn’t exactly make your SSN visible to people….

what about “I live in Dellview, NC”

CLE to IAH 06-17-2021 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3251263)
what about “I live in Dellview, NC”

congrats. I own your house now.

phly 06-17-2021 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by gypsyzxc (Post 3251190)
I’m very excited to have a class date coming up later this summer. I’ll be commuting from a centrally located East coast city. I’m aware of the junior bases, but does anyone have suggestions for a commuter wanting the quickest path to a line?

Thanks in advance

Definitely disagree with MCO. You'll get a line fastest in FLL, followed by DTW. ORD new hires are holding lines faster than MCO new hires at the moment.

MIAMIA 06-04-2022 01:49 AM

I understand that generally reserve blocks are of 6 days… but can anyone tell how much do you really typically work in those 6 days? Is it common to get a trip assigned on the first day that ends on the sixth day? How often do you get called in to work when on reserve? If based on FLL

MaxThrust1 06-04-2022 03:49 AM

As a reserve FO you’ll be used almost every single day on reserve. Rarely have I gotten more than 13 days off/mo. While it may not be a full 6 day trip, it could be two 3 day trips, and so on.

JulesWinfield 06-04-2022 04:03 AM


Originally Posted by MIAMIA (Post 3434538)
I understand that generally reserve blocks are of 6 days… but can anyone tell how much do you really typically work in those 6 days? Is it common to get a trip assigned on the first day that ends on the sixth day? How often do you get called in to work when on reserve? If based on FLL

The trip mix got changed from mostly 4 days to a lot of 1/2/3/4 day trips. You’re bucketed with other reserves based on days left. If you have 6 days left and there are other available reserves with less days available, you’re less likely to get used. With that said, we’re short handed, so it isn’t common for the benches to get cleared everyday.

flytight 06-04-2022 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by MaxThrust1 (Post 3434548)
As a reserve FO you’ll be used almost every single day on reserve. Rarely have I gotten more than 13 days off/mo. While it may not be a full 6 day trip, it could be two 3 day trips, and so on.

This hasn’t been my experience at all. I’ve consistently gotten 4 or more days that I wasn’t called in on a RAP, that’s been every month I’ve been here starting in February. One month I had 6 days off extra. Add in double dead head trips that happen often on reserve and I get more days at home. Also, I’ve broken guarantee each month, some by a good margin.

Tessie 06-04-2022 05:27 AM

How long would reserve be in one of the junior bases like FLL or MCO? Looking through the bid packets and awards, it would seem like you could be a lineholder in as little as two months.

I've seen comments saying that our FOs are on reserve for years

MIAMIA 06-04-2022 05:31 AM

If you prefer shorter trips, I think someone has mentioned that you can bid reserve blocks of 4 days instead of reserve blocks of 6 days… did I understand that correctly? Is it possible to basically have 4 ON, 3 OFF, 4 ON, 3 OFF kind of schedule while on reserve?

flytight 06-04-2022 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by MIAMIA (Post 3434593)
If you prefer shorter trips, I think someone has mentioned that you can bid reserve blocks of 4 days instead of reserve blocks of 6 days… did I understand that correctly? Is it possible to basically have 4 ON, 3 OFF, 4 ON, 3 OFF kind of schedule while on reserve?

Yes you can always waive the 4 day guarantee off.

JulesWinfield 06-04-2022 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by Tessie (Post 3434591)
How long would reserve be in one of the junior bases like FLL or MCO? Looking through the bid packets and awards, it would seem like you could be a lineholder in as little as two months.

I've seen comments saying that our FOs are on reserve for years

Junior line holder in MCO is a summer 2021 hire.

FlippingCups 06-04-2022 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by Tessie (Post 3434591)
How long would reserve be in one of the junior bases like FLL or MCO? Looking through the bid packets and awards, it would seem like you could be a lineholder in as little as two months.

I've seen comments saying that our FOs are on reserve for years

Right now realistically FLL is about 6-7 months until you can get a line, MCO is a bit longer somewhere near 9-10 months

sioux8ships 06-04-2022 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by MIAMIA (Post 3434593)
If you prefer shorter trips, I think someone has mentioned that you can bid reserve blocks of 4 days instead of reserve blocks of 6 days… did I understand that correctly? Is it possible to basically have 4 ON, 3 OFF, 4 ON, 3 OFF kind of schedule while on reserve?

No….. filler

SSlow 06-04-2022 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by MIAMIA (Post 3434538)
I understand that generally reserve blocks are of 6 days… but can anyone tell how much do you really typically work in those 6 days? Is it common to get a trip assigned on the first day that ends on the sixth day? How often do you get called in to work when on reserve? If based on FLL

FLL reserves are some of the busiest in the system as they have to cover two airports (technically three with the close proximity of MCO) and the company has plentiful options for DHDing crews into position all throughout the system. Couple with that our FO attrition problem and you'll probably get used every single working day.

To answer your other question, yes you can bid blocks of 4 reserve days and you'll have 2-3 days off between them.

pilotpoke 06-04-2022 07:19 AM

I thought LAS was fairly junior. Is that not true? What’s the reserve time for it?

Cyio 06-04-2022 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by pilotpoke (Post 3434650)
I thought LAS was fairly junior. Is that not true? What’s the reserve time for it?

It’s junior only in theory. We get a lot of training assignments but once done with OE they start bailing out. It seems to be getting better, slightly, but you are still looking at a year to hold a line.

CLE to IAH 06-04-2022 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by sioux8ships (Post 3434614)
No….. filler

yes…… filler

sioux8ships 06-04-2022 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 3434865)
yes…… filler

I stand corrected. You’re saying a brand new FO will be awarded a 4 on 3 off reserve schedule with no blocks of 6 days on? Damn, maybe I’ll start bidding reserve again.

Tessie 06-04-2022 05:45 PM

Quick question: can we pick up from the tradeboard on reserve?

JulesWinfield 06-04-2022 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by Tessie (Post 3434938)
Quick question: can we pick up from the tradeboard on reserve?

No. you can trade with people on the same RAP, though.

Tessie 06-04-2022 05:53 PM

Trade entire reserve days? Or like swap reserve trips after they get assigned?

JulesWinfield 06-04-2022 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by Tessie (Post 3434942)
Trade entire reserve days? Or like swap reserve trips after they get assigned?

Just swap reserve days. Let’s say your rap starts at 3am. If you can find someone to trade with you, they have to be on the 3am rap as well. Basically don’t plan on any schedule flexibility on reserve.

elmetal 06-04-2022 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3434951)
Just swap reserve days. Let’s say your rap starts at 3am. If you can find someone to trade with you, they have to be on the 3am rap as well. Basically don’t plan on any schedule flexibility on reserve.

If you're swapping whole blocks they don't have to be the same R period at all.i can swap my r3 block for your R10.

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CLE to IAH 06-04-2022 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by sioux8ships (Post 3434893)
I stand corrected. You’re saying a brand new FO will be awarded a 4 on 3 off reserve schedule with no blocks of 6 days on? Damn, maybe I’ll start bidding reserve again.

I never had an issue doing so. I can detect your sarcasm but it’s not hard for a fairly junior FO to waive down and hold a 4-3-4-3 schedule. It’s all I ever bud when I was on reserve.

HanYolo 06-04-2022 08:48 PM

The problem which always remains, is that yes, you can build your schedule by waiving off days and requesting days off. However this will in turn make it unpredictable as to which R period you’ll end up with. You can bid RAPs or days off. Usually not both.

elmetal 06-05-2022 02:24 AM


Originally Posted by HanYolo (Post 3434985)
The problem which always remains, is that yes, you can build your schedule by waiving off days and requesting days off. However this will in turn make it unpredictable as to which R period you’ll end up with. You can bid RAPs or days off. Usually not both.

You cannot bid R period.

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