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New pilot base in Miami?
30 routes from Miami starting in October... Are they opening a pilot base from Miami?
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No official word on new base, cobase or no base yet.
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Originally Posted by taosky
(Post 3252208)
30 routes from Miami starting in October... Are they opening a pilot base from Miami?
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Probably need to gauge how the flying goes… If the market likes us, co-base is my bet.. Miami guys will love it, rest of us will prolly avoid it.
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Originally Posted by offmyrocker
(Post 3252212)
Probably need to gauge how the flying goes… If the market likes us, co-base is my bet.. Miami guys will love it, rest of us will prolly avoid it.
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I hope not, if they do hopefully its later than sooner, atleast until i get my line... as a new guy living near PBI, my 45 min drive to FLL is fine with me. An additional 1 hour fighting that crazy miami traffic on reserve will be no bueno for me! :cool: lol
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No more bases!
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
(Post 3252246)
No more bases!
You might not like the dilution of flying but more bases will/can provide for better QOL for our pilots. Sorry if it doesn’t work for you |
My former regional gave up co-domicile in negotiations for a joint JFK/LGA base and didn't get much back in return. There are lots of things that make it miserable for a large portion of the pilot group. Things that were promised, like company provided transportation that weren't contractually guaranteed were slowly eroded.
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
(Post 3252263)
My former regional gave up co-domicile in negotiations for a joint JFK/LGA base and didn't get much back in return. There are lots of things that make it miserable for a large portion of the pilot group. Things that were promised, like company provided transportation that weren't contractually guaranteed were slowly eroded.
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Originally Posted by Skypilotsv1984
(Post 3252265)
I don’t see this group giving up anything without getting something in return. This isn’t a regional.
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Originally Posted by Bluesteal
(Post 3252241)
I hope not, if they do hopefully its later than sooner, atleast until i get my line... as a new guy living near PBI, my 45 min drive to FLL is fine with me. An additional 1 hour fighting that crazy miami traffic on reserve will be no bueno for me! :cool: lol
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3252248)
You have no say!
You might not like the dilution of flying but more bases will/can provide for better QOL for our pilots. Sorry if it doesn’t work for you |
Do we have more than 30 departures per day from any other other locations that are not a base? LAX or TPA maybe?
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Originally Posted by phly
(Post 3252329)
Do we have more than 30 departures per day from any other other locations that are not a base? LAX or TPA maybe?
BWI? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
We have the language in the contract, I'm not sure why the company would even need to discuss this with the union.
"Co-domiciles means two or more airports served by pilots within the same domicile provided that any of the airports are no more than 50 statute driving miles distance from the primary domicile and no two airports are more than 75 statute driving miles distance from each other." |
Originally Posted by RonnyK320
(Post 3252345)
We have the language in the contract, I'm not sure why the company would even need to discuss this with the union.
"Co-domiciles means two or more airports served by pilots within the same domicile provided that any of the airports are no more than 50 statute driving miles distance from the primary domicile and no two airports are more than 75 statute driving miles distance from each other." |
$.02
They can declare MIA a codomicile but the negotiating is how to get crew back to their car. Also if I've learned anything from these townhalls it's to hear what the company has no intention to do and try not to be shocked 30 days later when it comes true. So that means the next announcement is that we're flying to Canada, Dulles, or Kennedy. |
Originally Posted by phly
(Post 3252329)
Do we have more than 30 departures per day from any other other locations that are not a base? LAX or TPA maybe?
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New pilot base in Miami?
Originally Posted by SlimBob
(Post 3252376)
$.02
They can declare MIA a codomicile but the negotiating is how to get crew back to their car. Also if I've learned anything from these townhalls it's to hear what the company has no intention to do and try not to be shocked 30 days later when it comes true. So that means the next announcement is that we're flying to Canada, Dulles, or Kennedy. I’d imagine the easiest and most likely would be to just make any trip that starts in Miami end in Miami. If they can’t make that happen then I’d imagine they will have to pay you for a limo/deadhead back to the airport you started. |
Originally Posted by SlimBob
(Post 3252376)
$.02
They can declare MIA a codomicile but the negotiating is how to get crew back to their car. Also if I've learned anything from these townhalls it's to hear what the company has no intention to do and try not to be shocked 30 days later when it comes true. So that means the next announcement is that we're flying to Canada, Dulles, or Kennedy. |
Originally Posted by TrojanCMH
(Post 3252391)
I’d imagine the easiest and most likely would be to just make any trip that starts in Miami end in Miami. If they can’t make that happen then I’d imagine they will have to let you expense your Tri-Rail ticket.
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Originally Posted by week
(Post 3252380)
LAX does more departures per day than ACY, DFW, DTW, ORD, EWR, BWI, TPA, ATL and more. LAX is also a MX base not to mention… a lot of the LAS trips support LAX:D
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Originally Posted by FNGFO
(Post 3252395)
Fify..........
Haha probably. Hopefully the union fights that and makes them pay for your time when getting back to your car. |
New pilot base in Miami?
Originally Posted by Meep
(Post 3252399)
NK wants no part of a pilot base in CA.
Recurrent rumor was LAX was a done deal then covid hit and they put it in the back burner. |
Originally Posted by phly
(Post 3252329)
Do we have more than 30 departures per day from any other other locations that are not a base? LAX or TPA maybe?
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Originally Posted by TrojanCMH
(Post 3252406)
Recurrent rumor was LAX was a done deal then covid hit and they put it in the back burner.
you mean BWI? |
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Originally Posted by TrojanCMH
(Post 3252405)
Haha probably. Hopefully the union fights that and makes them pay for your time when getting back to your car.
"Every effort will be made to originate and terminate pairings at the same airport. If the pairing terminates at a different airport from where the pairing originates, the Company shall provide transportation. Time spent traveling between co-domiciles shall be considered surface deadheading and the provisions of Section 8.C shall apply." |
New pilot base in Miami?
Originally Posted by RonnyK320
(Post 3252434)
It's in the contract already:
"Every effort will be made to originate and terminate pairings at the same airport. If the pairing terminates at a different airport from where the pairing originates, the Company shall provide transportation. Time spent traveling between co-domiciles shall be considered surface deadheading and the provisions of Section 8.C shall apply." Thanks for looking that up. So what’s the big deal? Why is everyone acting like this will need to be negotiated with the union? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by TrojanCMH
(Post 3252455)
Thanks for looking that up. So what’s the big deal? Why is everyone acting like this will need to be negotiated with the union?
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Originally Posted by TrojanCMH
(Post 3252406)
Recurrent rumor was LAX was a done deal then covid hit and they put it in the back burner.
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New pilot base in Miami?
Originally Posted by SlimBob
(Post 3252476)
if by everyone you mean me I'll add to my tab for two more cents. ACY/PHL discussion have been had and a sticking point (not insurmountable) was limo vs a shuttle a few times per day. While being paid per contract who wants to wait for a shuttle? MIA doesn't breach the mileage rule so certainly an easier conversation, but still one we can have hypothetically.
I didn’t mean you personally. Just seems like a lot of talk saying this needs to be negotiated. Maybe it was just you, but either way, to me it seems like the language is there if the company wants to use it. If they want to get creative and go outside of the contract with a scheduled shuttle or not pay for a surface deadhead then yeah that would require negotiations. But if they want to stick to the contract then I don’t see why they can’t. |
Originally Posted by Halon1211
(Post 3252238)
hmm I might be taking my talents to South Beach.
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Originally Posted by FNGFO
(Post 3252395)
Fify..........
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Originally Posted by TrojanCMH
(Post 3252480)
I didn’t mean you personally. Just seems like a lot of talk saying this needs to be negotiated. Maybe it was just you, but either way, to me it seems like the language is there if the company wants to use it. If they want to get creative and go outside of the contract with a scheduled shuttle or not pay for a surface deadhead then yeah that would require negotiations. But if they want to stick to the contract then I don’t see why they can’t.
But please, let’s keep acting like we have some sort of say… |
Originally Posted by SSlow
(Post 3252508)
Better be taking a gun as well. That place is ratchet af these days...
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Originally Posted by offmyrocker
(Post 3252527)
Tri rail?!? Hell no. Brightline or Limo only. Get outta here with that nonsense.
Limo it is! |
Originally Posted by gringo
(Post 3252560)
Brightline doesn’t service either airport.
Limo it is! walk out the terminal, wave your hand, and in the taxi you go...no waiting for a shuttle or Uber. |
Originally Posted by gringo
(Post 3252560)
Brightline doesn’t service either airport.
Limo it is! |
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