Schedule flexibility
06-24-2021, 12:51 PM
#11
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Originally Posted by Cyio
Why would a company pay you to drop a trip and how would not paying be disrespectful?
perhaps I am reading your question wrong but if you choose to drop something, that is on you.
perhaps I am reading your question wrong but if you choose to drop something, that is on you.
06-24-2021, 01:33 PM
#12
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I was half making a joke about the stereotypical abuse at regionals, particularly since I upgraded and am being passed around like a $20 hooker at a frat party, and half hoping that there would be one company out there who would pay for the occasional dropped trip. After all, not everyone drops trips to go bang a supermodel on a beach. Could be a family emergency, etc.
I hit minimums at Spirit next month and I'm applying the microsecond my logbook indicates I qualify. No one needs to stick a fork in me to tell that I'm done with the regionals. Can't wait to fly for a company that sells its own tickets and owns its own airplanes.
I hit minimums at Spirit next month and I'm applying the microsecond my logbook indicates I qualify. No one needs to stick a fork in me to tell that I'm done with the regionals. Can't wait to fly for a company that sells its own tickets and owns its own airplanes.
06-24-2021, 02:04 PM
#13
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
I think he is just dreaming of all the possibilities that can be in a major airline contract and his imagination got a little ahead of him. Its not that farfetched. Just a few years ago the company would have to pay you for trips dropped if you chose to bid a line that conflicted with another line, creating a situation that isnt too far off from what he asked. So there are/have been crazy things in contracts
Edit: the setup was beautiful; 6 on, 1 off, 6 on, 4 off....
06-24-2021, 03:11 PM
#14
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
I think he is just dreaming of all the possibilities that can be in a major airline contract and his imagination got a little ahead of him. Its not that farfetched. Just a few years ago the company would have to pay you for trips dropped if you chose to bid a line that conflicted with another line, creating a situation that isnt too far off from what he asked. So there are/have been crazy things in contracts
edit - I don’t remember if it was pay protected. It’s been since 2015
06-24-2021, 03:35 PM
#15
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Originally Posted by njd1
I was half making a joke about the stereotypical abuse at regionals, particularly since I upgraded and am being passed around like a $20 hooker at a frat party, and half hoping that there would be one company out there who would pay for the occasional dropped trip. After all, not everyone drops trips to go bang a supermodel on a beach. Could be a family emergency, etc.
I hit minimums at Spirit next month and I'm applying the microsecond my logbook indicates I qualify. No one needs to stick a fork in me to tell that I'm done with the regionals. Can't wait to fly for a company that sells its own tickets and owns its own airplanes.
I hit minimums at Spirit next month and I'm applying the microsecond my logbook indicates I qualify. No one needs to stick a fork in me to tell that I'm done with the regionals. Can't wait to fly for a company that sells its own tickets and owns its own airplanes.
If you have a family emergency and need to get paid use your sick time. If you want to go bang a supermodel than straight drop it or swap for another trip.
06-25-2021, 04:43 AM
#16
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Originally Posted by njd1
How is pay handled for a dropped trip?
I presume the price for the freedom and flexibility to drop trips is that if you don't pick up something else later in the month to cover the loss you make less than awarded that month, potentially dropping below guarantee. Right?
Or do you just magically get pay protected for it and I've been abused in the regionals too long to assume that there are la la lands where pilots are treated with a modicum of respect?
I presume the price for the freedom and flexibility to drop trips is that if you don't pick up something else later in the month to cover the loss you make less than awarded that month, potentially dropping below guarantee. Right?
Or do you just magically get pay protected for it and I've been abused in the regionals too long to assume that there are la la lands where pilots are treated with a modicum of respect?
Also, yes, you have been abused at your regional too long.
06-25-2021, 10:40 AM
#17
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Originally Posted by CLE to IAH
we had that at XJT for vacations. Since it was line bidding, you could bid trips to touch your vacation and if they did, boom. Dropped.
edit - I don’t remember if it was pay protected. It’s been since 2015
edit - I don’t remember if it was pay protected. It’s been since 2015
Ahh memories... it was good for a regional but still garbage compared to the current Spirit vac system.
edit: Which brings me to think about Spirit MFV. 1 per base/seat made sense when we were 400 pilots, but it needs to be scaled up with the increase in butts.
06-25-2021, 11:44 AM
#18
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Originally Posted by beverage
Not pay protected per se, but you would still get min guarantee now matter how much touch-dropped. Unless you effed yourself in the SLIW.
Ahh memories... it was good for a regional but still garbage compared to the current Spirit vac system.
edit: Which brings me to think about Spirit MFV. 1 per base/seat made sense when we were 400 pilots, but it needs to be scaled up with the increase in butts.
Ahh memories... it was good for a regional but still garbage compared to the current Spirit vac system.
edit: Which brings me to think about Spirit MFV. 1 per base/seat made sense when we were 400 pilots, but it needs to be scaled up with the increase in butts.
The good ol days at spirit too. You could bid transition conflicts and vacation conflicts and get pay protected for it all. Then pick up flying on the days that conflicted.
06-25-2021, 02:05 PM
#19
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Originally Posted by TrojanCMH
The good ol days at spirit too. You could bid transition conflicts and vacation conflicts and get pay protected for it all. Then pick up flying on the days that conflicted.
That being said, I hated line bidding.
06-27-2021, 01:57 PM
#20
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4Flight
Correct, not pay protected. As long as you're ok with losing the pay, you can drop your whole month and take and "unpaid vacation".
Also, yes, you have been abused at your regional too long.
Also, yes, you have been abused at your regional too long.
Quickest airline to get me there would probably be my first choice in retirement, even beyond the whole "live in base" thing (after all, I'd be leaving the military to live somewhere the wife wasn't merely "tolerating" for once lol)
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