Originally Posted by E6BAV8R (Post 3366255)

But what does Spirit's board really gain by merging with Frontier? There are absolute similarities, but Spirit makes so much money, in places Frontier doesn't, what would be the incentive for them to merge over the long term? Or to sell to anyone? I think the only people gaining from that merger would be Frontier. But what would Spirit really gain over the long term? Over the last 1-2 years, Frontier just seems to be playing behind the Spirit playbook. Frontier has very efficient airplanes right now, but they don't have nearly as many NEOs coming in over the next 2 years, as compared to Spirit. Spirit brought back their 319s solely for growth and for slots and to take advantage of the pandemic.

I just don't think Spirit has any real incentive to merge with anyone at the moment. Nor should they, honestly. There is no doubt that Indigo would absolutey love a merge with Spirit, though.

Originally Posted by BusBoi (Post 3364417)

I'm a Spirit FO, mid 30s, living in the northeastern quadrant of NJ and based in AC. I'm also considering going to a legacy with United being my target. Not interested in Delta (can't stand their pilot culture) or American (I've heard lousy workrules, miserable pilots, incompetent management, and several years for upgrade). However, if I don't get hired by United (and I have zero interest flying cargo), do you think JetBlue would be a little bit of a step up or purely a pointless lateral move? They have a highly convenient Newark base, but JFK and LGA are doable as well (shorter mileage than AC but traffic and high bridge tolls. However I'm planning to move closer to NYC and could then use public transit to get to JFK/LGA). I really like JetBlue's product, they seem better run than spirit, their pay is better, they're flying to Europe, etc., and I understand upgrades are no worse than Spirit and very quick for the E190 in NY. What do you all think?

Originally Posted by RJ Captain (Post 3366384)

What is the general feeling of Spirit Pilots about Australian's being hired on the E3 Visa? Positive or negative?

Originally Posted by RJ Captain (Post 3366384)

What is the general feeling of Spirit Pilots about Australian's being hired on the E3 Visa? Positive or negative?

Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3366387)

i like Australian’s...best people ever...but I know pilots here won’t like it because that means we will be able to staff the place which means we don’t have leverage for a raise.

Originally Posted by FNGFO (Post 3366282)

We weren’t killing it pre Covid? That’s an interesting take.

Originally Posted by dualinput (Post 3366423)

No we weren’t. We were profitable as was the rest of the industry. Our margins and income (adjusted for our size) were nothing special. The legacies had better margins believe it or not. So even in good times with far lower costs we weren’t exactly printing money

Originally Posted by FNGFO (Post 3366439)

Is it really a problem if our margins and income are nothing special because we’re plowing profits back into growing the airline? The legacies aren’t growing. They’re just trading customers and routes on the fringes. Granted, the performance is nothing like the early teens, but neither is the airline. And that kind of performance is usually an outlier for anyone.