Weird airplane quirks
 

Has anyone else has been in the plane with the RAAS (runway awareness and advisory system)? It’s one of our old planes that we’ve had for over 5 years not the new NEOs coming on line and it’s not something it had before. Is it a one-off quirk or is it something that our planes will be getting across the board? Or that option got mistakenly turned on? And it’s turned back off again?

it tells you that you are approaching xx runway as you taxi up to it or are on approach to land on it and it also tells you when you are on that runway


just idly wondering if that is supposed to be something we are getting on all planes as they update the software or that is just a one off quirk


some old planes also have the altitude selection value in meters next to the clock time on the SD in between the TAT/SAT and aircraft GW. It didn’t have that extra value before.

They sent a read file for the EIS update for those changes but that read file didn’t mention these two changes.

anyways back to your normal scheduled APC programming

Haven't flown all our birds yet but I have used Foreflight for a while. Any chance you're mistaking the Foreflight alerts for RAAS?

Weird airplane quirks
 

Yes just flew this plane. We couldn’t figure out what the hell was telling us we were approaching and entering different runways. Didn’t happen on any of the other planes. I think it was 638.

Don’t worry. All that advanced, techno, niceties will be ripped out by SWA. Oh, and say goodbye to your sunshades, too 🙄

I keeeeeed (sort of).

I stand corrected. Just check my logbook of a flight recently where the puzzled Captain and I both checked our Foreflight alerts for the runway distance call-out we heard. It was 638.

To remove altitude select in meters above clock time on SD, just press Metric ALT pb on glareshield between the ALT and V/S knob!

Wow we really have Airbus type rated pilots that don’t know this. 🙈

are these the same pilots that ask what the bend at the wingtips are called?

I bet if you play stump the chump all flight long you could really take a pesky FO down a peg or two. And expand your no fly list prestige!

I believe a button on the FCU is something you should know...Not a game of “stump to chump”

and I don’t have a no fly list.

Just out of curiosity, are the displays LCD or CRT tubes?

They’re all LC displays.

Unless you’re in FLL where they magically become CRT’s in the minds of some CAs.

You beat me to it. Haha

even the 15 year old 319s are LCD

I was on the Bus for years but now on Fifi and already forgot. Can someone remind me, the logic of managed descent when pulling speed knob to maintain a new ATC airspeed. Say you had 280 kts set in the descent page and pushed to start a managed descent. I remember it would bracket +/- 20 knots, so bars at 260 kts and 300 kts. If it was getting high on profile, it would pitch down more up to 300 kts and try to stay on profile. Idle power.

Lets say it's doing 280 kts perfect in the managed descent. ATC says slow to 260 kts for descent. You pull speed to 260, it changes from magenta to blue. That much I remember. Plane will initially pitch up to get 260 knots, then come down. But I forget, what's the logic now? Will the plane keep coming down at 260 kts at idle, including going below Vnav deviation dot (magenta)? Or will it add some power once it gets back on the Vnav deviation dot and maintain the 260 knots and stay on Vnav dot?

It will add power if you’re in selected speed and below the airspeed you selected. If you are faster than the selected speed it will ignore the profile and pitch up to slow down.

Yeah this cracks me up. Every screen turned all the way down.

Correct. Selected always trumps whatever is managed.


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the plane will pitch up for 260 going off profile

can always select vertical speed at current rate,
dial selected speed down to 260 (new assigned) and use the brakes while meeting altitude constraints while slowing to the new assigned speed - not always possible - May have to tell atc it’s one of the other speed or altitude

edit for punctuation

Just remember that ASAP access has moved to a new app.

Never had an issue with a 20 knot reduction using that method but thanks

Hahah


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VS is probably one of the best techniques to slow down and get down at the same time. As opposed to what you see every single day which is selected slower speed, aircraft pitches up to slow down and flys off profile, now you watch as they battle to get back on profile. Sometimes unable to, and when in the terminal area sometimes leading to an unstable approach.

this right here - thank you

Open descent for a 1,000ft. descent…. Gotta love those who do it…..

Only thing worse are those who pull for open descent at altitude.

Our ice detector is a stick that protrudes from the center post of the windscreen. NK’s 320’s are about as bare boned as Airbii get. Just slap the heart over our most admired company badge, fill our carts with peanuts and hold onto the buses until we’re relatively sure someone won’t dig any more ditches with a Max.

lol....that’s funny

What amateur! I just press the Expedite button

This is a scary button that should ONLY be used in “extreme” or “emergency” situations…. Or so I was told years ago in a grave and solemn tone after using it to clear some weather in the low 20’s climbing out of LAX.

Since then my cockpit prep consists of covering it up with a post-it note with his initial reaction “NO!”

During Captain OE the check airman has you push the Expedite button so that you see what it does - it's nothing scary.

I think the sarcasm did an expedite over your head…

during your first layover on Captain OE, your check airman orders you a lap dance and see what it does-it’s nothing scary.

Uhhhhhh wut? A check airman said the exec button was for extreme situations?

Uhhhhhhh I never said it was a check airman

AOM1 “EXPEDITE”

Mode used to increase
the vertical speed by
selecting green dot in
climb or 0.80/340 kt in
descent.

Used to expedite a climb
or descent towards a
specific level.


id say it’s fair game and anyone that says otherwise can shove it. Would I press it? Probably not, I fly like a grandma

CI99 is approved too, but the /340 in descent isnt a smart move, probably why 99% of the pilots slow it up.

And the "anyone that says otherwise can shove it," you know that bravado ends once the guy in the left seat says "lets not do that"

Won’t touch expedite button but I use max reverse down to 60 knots every time! Empty 319 with brake fans on a 12,000 foot runway I’m rattling those bins!

Only time I used it was when descending out of 4000 down to 2000, while being vectored and cleared for the approach.
The plan was to hit APP and AP2, but hit EXPD instead. Houses got bigger fast.... When in doubt push V/S 0, and select speed