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CincoDeMayo 03-04-2022 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by emersonbiguns (Post 3382905)
No.

Filler

You will soon. Haha

All your base are belong to us!

symbian simian 03-04-2022 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by emersonbiguns (Post 3382905)
No.

Filler

supposedly it helps, so that is what we (are supposed to) do....

FNGFO 03-04-2022 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3382848)
Do you run the APU for 3 minutes before you can turn the bleed on?

Neither do most of the guys I fly with. I start a clock when I start the APU and hit the bleed at 4 mins. I figure one minute to start and 3 for the bleed.

Powderkeg 03-04-2022 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3382848)
Do you run the APU for 3 minutes before you can turn the bleed on?

No the emphasis has been on waiting for a complete APU shutdown before turning off the ship batteries. They think not allowing time (2 min after AVAIL light goes out) can cause an erroneously low oil level in the sight gauge and then the mechanics over service it.

symbian simian 03-04-2022 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by FNGFO (Post 3383177)
Neither do most of the guys I fly with. I start a clock when I start the APU and hit the bleed at 4 mins. I figure one minute to start and 3 for the bleed.

You must be me

lowandslow 03-04-2022 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by Powderkeg (Post 3383223)
No the emphasis has been on waiting for a complete APU shutdown before turning off the ship batteries. They think not allowing time (2 min after AVAIL light goes out) can cause an erroneously low oil level in the sight gauge and then the mechanics over service it.

That's been sop at NK as long as I've been there.

Bluedriver 03-05-2022 03:44 AM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3382731)
Oil pressure on the CEO is a lot higher than on the NEO. No idea if that has anything to do with it, but it seems the CEO is worse.

Thank you! I appreciate someone willing to answer me. At the company I follow, there are a couple of dedicated biddable seats/fleets that are all NEO, no CEO.

Yes, I'm aware of the APU being a big part of the problem, especially when it is overserviced with oil, and maybe in other scenarios.

However, I have also had events that were very clearly from CEO engines.

Bluedriver 03-05-2022 03:48 AM


Originally Posted by Powderkeg (Post 3383223)
No the emphasis has been on waiting for a complete APU shutdown before turning off the ship batteries. They think not allowing time (2 min after AVAIL light goes out) can cause an erroneously low oil level in the sight gauge and then the mechanics over service it.

Makes sense as restarting the APU and letting it go through a complete shutdown before turning off the batteries can sometimes clear on erroneous APU LOW OIL message.

What is the theory behind waiting 3 mins to bleed the APU? I like the 4 min hack for starting.

Thanks guys, this has been helpful and still looking forward to more input.

CincoDeMayo 03-05-2022 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3383382)
Makes sense as restarting the APU and letting it go through a complete shutdown before turning off the batteries can sometimes clear on erroneous APU LOW OIL message.

What is the theory behind waiting 3 mins to bleed the APU? I like the 4 min hack for starting.

Thanks guys, this has been helpful and still looking forward to more input.

The official answer it the 3 minutes allows the seals to reach “optimum performance” and should eliminate trace oil in the ducts…so less chance you smell something from oil getting into the system

Bluedriver 03-05-2022 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3383441)
The official answer it the 3 minutes allows the seals to reach “optimum performance” and should eliminate trace oil in the ducts…so less chance you smell something from oil getting into the system

Also makes sense.


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