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From a commuter perspective:
I normally do one four day trip per week, commutable both ends. For LAS that normally means red eye, flip, flop (early flight back) to LAS (preferably without penalty lap). Pay 18 hrs, TAFB 70 hrs, include commute TAFH 80 hrs.
With day trips, if I get 3 in a row, early start and 6 hour credit, commute in day before. Same TAFH, same credit, extra cost $300/month for a crash pad.
Not something i would like better, but not the end of the world either…

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Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3386118)

thats what I do and like it way better. Sometimes Able to go duty for credit the entire bid period. 5 credit min duty period. West coast turns. Block 3 duty 5 credit 5. Usually I’ll mix in a few higher credit turns to bring credit up a bit though. 15-16 days off. Did an overnight last week for the first time in years. Unfortunately day trips are getting harder to hold at my seniority.

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Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker (Post 3386128)

I guess you should be able to better in the future... Tacos & beer on paradise better get a kick back from Bendo

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Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3386164)

I guess you should be able to better in the future... Tacos & beer on paradise better get a kick back from Bendo

yeah. Or mountain bike in red rocks, swim/jet ski in mead and/or golf. Beats most of the cvg, dtw, cle, stl, or any other hot spot overnight. Just spend $400 for a real crash pad. Should be able to have your own room and a garage for toys. There’s a ton of fun in las and surrounding area.

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Originally Posted by Tranquility (Post 3386099)

If it’s the long MCI, I’d take it!

100% with you 😎

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Originally Posted by BeechedJet (Post 3386090)

Just get mentally prepared for a lot of four days that are IAH IAH IAH or LBE LBE LBE or MCI MCI MCI.

Fine by me as long as the overnights aren't in base on my dime.

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Originally Posted by SSlow (Post 3385951)

We have always been heavy on 3-4 day trips, so it's nice to see some variety. For every one pilot on here complaining about in domicile turns (which is mainly Florida bases per the townhall), there are ten others living in base who will be all over them because their seniority previously could not hold them.

G4 pilot here and i will say the day trip model is something i love and a big reason people come/stay at G4. What's kind of ironic is that management here is "experimenting" with 3-4 day trips (less than 5% of the flights) and pilots are not happy about it. We are accustomed to day trips and they are very efficient here for the more senior folks. Unfortunately the 3-4 day trips that management is testing are not efficient and not even that easy to commute for.

Anyway, just my two cents. I'm sure there a folks who live in base that will bid for the day trips while the commuters can continue to gobble up the 4 day trips. I wish G4 would build some efficient 3-4 day trips to make it easier for ppl to commute here. Hopefully NK does it right and at least tries to make both the day trips and the 4 day trips desirable.