This is the 800 lb gorilla that our 'this is better than my regional' pilot groups can't seem to wrap their 'topless' heads around. Both groups are going to get Brandoned with the seniority stagnation and NK pilots won't even get a reach around having to work for Franke. This is the worst possible outcome for both groups and one can only hope that this merger is denied. Perhaps SPA MEC can make use of some of our M/A cheese to attempt to put a stop to this.

not that you’re not correct about some of this but for someone who preaches as much crap as you do I guess now is the time to sht or get off the pot. I imagine FO’s love listening to you preach about the orange man and bag on this place even though you’ll never leave.

Haha, poor reserve FOs.

The reality is that this merger is much bigger than anyone’s individual seniority. To think differently is short sighted and, frankly, selfish. The post-covid aviation industry is a brave new world when it comes to competition. The pre-covid koolaid from both companies about kicking butt and taking names is cute, but is now nothing more than a battle cry that could very easily be snuffed out if left to their individual means. Together, overnight Frontierit will become a size that could legitimately and fiercely compete in this new market.

Would slow organic growth better benefit each individual pilot in the short term? Absolutely! But, this career is about the long game. Not what’s happening tomorrow. There will be short term pain for some people, but once the merger waves subside, we will all be better for it in the long run. This isn’t about what’s best for any individual, it’s about what’s best for both groups as a whole going forward. Seniority doesn’t mean squat if your airline ends up as a chapter in a history book. Personally, I’m more than happy to give up a little seniority now for a better chance at job security and bigger seniority gains over the next 10, 15, 20+ years.

The DOJ cannot unilaterally block a merger. Just like the American US Airways merger which the DOJ opposed, they couldn’t prevent it. If the DOJ opposes a merger, the parties to the merger can fight it in court where a judge decides. That’s what happened with the American/Airways merger. The DOJ’s argument and data didn’t persuade the judge into thinking it violated antitrust laws and so it was approved with minor concessions.


I though that the SWA/ATN merger did not got to arbitration? I do know that the ASA/XJT SLI didn’t. It was mutually agreed upon by the merger committees without the use of a mediator, let along an arbitrator.