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afterburn81 03-30-2022 06:49 AM

Baby Bus for market advantage
 
JB makes it work. Airbus seems motivated to appeal to others with a similar model. Better keep an eye on who they are meeting with.

https://onemileatatime.com/insights/...us-a220-miami/

IamEssential 03-30-2022 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by afterburn81 (Post 3397115)
JB makes it work. Airbus seems motivated to appeal to others with a similar model. Better keep an eye on who they are meeting with.

https://onemileatatime.com/insights/...us-a220-miami/

I'm confused as to what this has to do with Spirit?

sioux8ships 03-30-2022 01:46 PM

Absolutely nothing! Lol

CincoDeMayo 03-30-2022 03:27 PM

Haha. OR…Spirit takes the 319neos, which beat the 220 in many areas, and enjoys the benefits of the single fleet type.

MCDUmanipulator 03-30-2022 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3397472)
Haha. OR…Spirit takes the 319neos, which beat the 220 in many areas, and enjoys the benefits of the single fleet type.

In what areas exactly?

Excargodog 03-30-2022 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator (Post 3397487)
In what areas exactly?

https://i.ibb.co/GvmRLhq/1-E4-DCB28-...8-C99-EFE7.jpg

Range
Payload
Training commonality
Parts commonality
Parts availability

afterburn81 03-30-2022 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by IamEssential (Post 3397386)
I'm confused as to what this has to do with Spirit?

Reading into the story, this aircraft is here in the states, for the purpose of demo and promotion.

It’s unlikely they are pitching the 220 to DL or JB. Can’t imagine SWA or Alaska is interested either. It would be hard to believe that Airbus isn’t attempting to sell their latest and greatest to one of their best customers. Haven’t done the numbers yet but the combined NK/F9 fleet may become one of the world’s largest narrow bus operators?

FNGFO 03-30-2022 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by afterburn81 (Post 3397534)
Reading into the story, this aircraft is here in the states, for the purpose of demo and promotion.

It’s unlikely they are pitching the 220 to DL or JB. Can’t imagine SWA or Alaska is interested either. It would be hard to believe that Airbus isn’t attempting to sell their latest and greatest to one of their best customers. Haven’t done the numbers yet but the combined NK/F9 fleet may become one of the world’s largest narrow bus operators?

NK/F9 may change the 319 NEO orders to the 321NEOs that F9 prefers leaving a gap for the smaller planes to serve certain markets and perhaps be better specialized for use one some markets that the regionals no longer cover? Just spitballing.

emersonbiguns 03-30-2022 05:45 PM

How do you make a profit at low margins? Quantity.

F9 has been moving towards more 321s. The time, effort and manpower to operate and turn a smaller capacity aircraft is going to very similar to a larger one in the same ballpark of size. I'd be willing to bet it makes a whole lot more sense to operate fewer large aircraft than more small aircraft...

afterburn81 03-31-2022 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by emersonbiguns (Post 3397563)
How do you make a profit at low margins? Quantity.

F9 has been moving towards more 321s. The time, effort and manpower to operate and turn a smaller capacity aircraft is going to very similar to a larger one in the same ballpark of size. I'd be willing to bet it makes a whole lot more sense to operate fewer large aircraft than more small aircraft...

I believe you mean “Volume”. However, sheer volume alone, won’t cut it in the economy model. Efficiency is Spirits secret weapon. Could fill every seat and never make a dime. Lower your costs and the BELF becomes easier to obtain.

The ULCC bean counters are different than those of the legacies.


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