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Trylabyte 05-08-2022 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by SlimBob (Post 3419006)
Troglodyte- If the company fixes attrition, great. If they don't, even better. The wheels will have to fall off for them to be proactive. Their solution is turns. Once that idea fails it will be another until the Board makes a change. Until then I keep moving up 10-15 positions per month. These are people that are probably younger than me and will make my long term seniority better. I suspect it's even better for you. Look at the delivery schedule- the planes are acomin'. They have 6 months to make a meaningful change to stem attrition and if they don't... Good. More bargaining power. Literally.

Assuming we're in business. Cancelling flights and no crews mean no money. That does happen you know.

CincoDeMayo 05-08-2022 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by SlimBob (Post 3419006)
Troglodyte- If the company fixes attrition, great. If they don't, even better. The wheels will have to fall off for them to be proactive. Their solution is turns. Once that idea fails it will be another until the Board makes a change. Until then I keep moving up 10-15 positions per month. These are people that are probably younger than me and will make my long term seniority better. I suspect it's even better for you. Look at the delivery schedule- the planes are acomin'. They have 6 months to make a meaningful change to stem attrition and if they don't... Good. More bargaining power. Literally.

Don’t feed the troll. He isn’t seeking anything objective or constructive. He is either the most negative person or a world class troll, either way, avoid

AndroidPilot 05-08-2022 01:12 PM

Guys and gals, could we save this thread for people who actually want to be here?

I interviewed on the 26th, it went well and was pretty much told I got the job. Still waiting for my CJO. Anyone else got updates from the past 3 interview sessions?

Fah2 05-08-2022 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Trylabyte (Post 3418846)
It will be senior captains v mid tier and below fo's battling between retirement, pay scales and time off.

Yes, we have already gotten together and agreed to give all the mid tier and below FO’s the shaft…..

It’s not that we don’t like them, we just don’t like you.

Trylabyte 05-09-2022 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3419171)
Don’t feed the troll. He isn’t seeking anything objective or constructive. He is either the most negative person or a world class troll, either way, avoid

Just as a note everyone. Cinco isn't your friend. Come contract time this is the first guy to sell out for peanuts

CincoDeMayo 05-09-2022 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by Trylabyte (Post 3419412)
Just as a note everyone. Cinco isn't your friend. Come contract time this is the first guy to sell out for peanuts

Haha.

You have officially derailed

123AB 05-09-2022 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3418629)
Who cares we get paid to fly airplanes? Like this is some sort of gift the airlines give us, paying us AND letting us fly planes?

My point was, enjoy what you do. If someone does not enjoy it and just wants to sit around here and do absolutely nothing but gripe, then they should move on to another career.

CincoDeMayo 05-09-2022 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by 123AB (Post 3419727)
My point was, enjoy what you do. If someone does not enjoy it and just wants to sit around here and do absolutely nothing but gripe, then they should move on to another career.

I get your point but his attitude (Trylybyte and others) is cancerous when it comes to Section 6 or, more likely, JCBA time.

Nothing management loves more than a bunch of complaining trolls destroying any chance at unity. The ONLY way to get a decent contract against Franke is through unity amongst the pilots, participating in the process, and staying active and informed. Guys like him only serve to destroy, he is just too ignorant to even realize it.

Last point, guys like him will often conflate someone being a "company man" or "happy with the status quo" if they are not constantly complaining about what they dont like and what we need. For those of us who have been around a few laps, we know real change is made with action and not constant complaining which does nothing to strengthen our position and achieve gains. There will be a time soon for every Spirit and F9 pilots to get off our collective butts and go to action, until then, its just hot air with someone of these guys.

JulesWinfield 05-09-2022 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3419750)
I get your point but his attitude (Trylybyte and others) is cancerous when it comes to Section 6 or, more likely, JCBA time.

Nothing management loves more than a bunch of complaining trolls destroying any chance at unity. The ONLY way to get a decent contract against Franke is through unity amongst the pilots, participating in the process, and staying active and informed. Guys like him only serve to destroy, he is just too ignorant to even realize it.

Last point, guys like him will often conflate someone being a "company man" or "happy with the status quo" if they are not constantly complaining about what they dont like and what we need. For those of us who have been around a few laps, we know real change is made with action and not constant complaining which does nothing to strengthen our position and achieve gains. There will be a time soon for every Spirit and F9 pilots to get off our collective butts and go to action, until then, its just hot air with someone of these guys.

I'd rather have guys who are ****ed off on our side than most of the passive CA types I fly with who act like they're battered spouses or something. The "better than a regional" or "good enough for me" mentality is much worse than some troll on the internet.

sioux8ships 05-09-2022 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3419758)
I'd rather have guys who are ****ed off on our side than most of the passive CA types I fly with who act like they're battered spouses or something. The "better than a regional" or "good enough for me" mentality is much worse than some troll on the internet.

Apathy and better than me regional attitude needs to stop. Guys that are pi$$ed off and negative need to take that energy and use it productively during section 6.

Nothing wrong with being positive at work, but let’s be realists too.


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