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08-19-2022 | 09:49 AM

#81

povertyeagle

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I'm sure JG and Alex are smiling ear to ear about the amount of red eye's they'll be able to rip out of their newly acquired LAS "focus city."

Can't wait.

08-20-2022 | 04:40 AM

#82

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Originally Posted by Flyby1206

With DTW, ORD and DFW listed (on these boards) as shrinking… what’s growing?

08-20-2022 | 05:00 AM

#83

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Originally Posted by doubles

With DTW, ORD and DFW listed (on these boards) as shrinking… what’s growing?

ATL, IAH and Florida.

08-20-2022 | 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyby1206

There will be a ton of FLL/MCO crews. I do agree with BD though and think they will avoid displacements and instead run a lot of trips originating in FLL/MCO through other bases. I would expect the seniority progression to become very stagnant in FLL/MCO once the companies combine.

NK
53 ACY CA
43 ACY FO
203 DFW CA
166 DFW FO
189 DTW CA
161 DTW FO
425 FLL CA
341 FLL FO
220 LAS CA
168 LAS FO
250 MCO CA
224 MCO FO
217 ORD CA
153 ORD FO
252 Undesignated FO

JB
88 BOS 220 CA
112 BOS 220 FO
374 BOS 320 CA
388 BOS 320 FO
232 BOS 190 CA
249 BOS 190 FO
41 EWR 320 CA
44 EWR 320 FO
330 FLL 320 CA
327 FLL 320 FO
680 JFK 320 CA
724 JFK 320 FO
120 JFK 190 CA
141 JFK 190 FO
155 LAX 320 CA
159 LAX 320 FO
97 MCO 320 CA
122 MCO 320 FO
64 MCO 190 CA
74 MCO 190 FO

looking at those ca/fo ratios at NK I just realized how absolutely screwed us junior FO's are for upgrade

08-20-2022 | 02:18 PM

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CincoDeMayo

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Originally Posted by fumeevented

looking at those ca/fo ratios at NK I just realized how absolutely screwed us junior FO's are for upgrade

That was going to happen with the spirit growth airplanes now being “shared” amongst two pilot groups, with then being larger

08-21-2022 | 05:56 AM

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I spoke with someone that said NK has 1000 pilots in FLL. Turns out, it’s nearly the same as JB. Everyone take a breath. It’ll be ok.

08-21-2022 | 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Cockpit997

I spoke with someone that said NK has 1000 pilots in FLL. Turns out, it’s nearly the same as JB. Everyone take a breath. It’ll be ok.

and 800 of those 1000 at JB are senior to all spirit florida pilots.

08-21-2022 | 11:03 AM

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and 800 of those 1000 at JB are senior to all spirit florida pilots.

hmm

stuffer

08-21-2022 | 11:52 AM

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CincoDeMayo

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Originally Posted by elmetal

and 800 of those 1000 at JB are senior to all spirit florida pilots.

And if the ISL was to be straight DOH, I would agree thats an issue. Until you have a SLI, you cant assume bidding percentage by a base.

The only thing thats pretty much universally known is this will be a longevity/Relative mix based on the recent history of integrations like this. With that you will see guys from the more senior side lose longevity and guys from the more junior group lose relative seniority. Because of this, I would not assume a 2009 JBLU pilot would be higher on the MCO bid list than a 2010 Spirit pilot. The JBLu guy will be upset he is now junior to a Spirit guy with less longevity and that NK pilot will say "Well I was bidding 15% in MCO, now im bidding 25%, I got screwed too". And thats how SLIs work out.