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Margaritaville 08-14-2022 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3477424)
You asked why Spirit has more incidents. I say it’s the amount of big city trash we fly and you counter with “have you ever been to Flint or Allentown! It’s worse”

Ok man, you win, Allegiant is 100% hood but it’s your de-escalation techniques. Nobody knows what the heIl an Allegiant is, that’s a big part of it.

You're missing my point. Is it intentional?

Allegiant flies to just as many major cities or their satellite airports. Our passengers are just as hood/trashy. Maybe more so.

But yeah, nobody knows who the hell allegiant is unless they've flown us. Everyone who has access to YouTube knows who spirit is and what they're known for, There's gotta be a reason. Maybe it's just that spirit is the largest of the three.

It will be interesting to see if this stops after the company becomes JetBlue.

SSlow 08-14-2022 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3477419)
I still don't get it. Either Spirit isn't training deescalation, their passengers are worse, or they just get more media attention.

That guy works (worked) for a third party vendor and not Spirit, so the company probably doesn't have any say in the de-escalation training techniques for "XYZ airport services"

FNGFO 08-14-2022 08:37 AM

Love the two of them standing belly to belly, hand behind their backs and talking ****** to each other like some overgrown roosters at the end. Good lord.

Hopefully the woman is charged. And some third party vendor has a video for how NOT to handle unruly customers in the future.

CincoDeMayo 08-14-2022 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3477428)
You're missing my point. Is it intentional?

Allegiant flies to just as many major cities or their satellite airports. Our passengers are just as hood/trashy. Maybe more so.

But yeah, nobody knows who the hell allegiant is unless they've flown us. Everyone who has access to YouTube knows who spirit is and what they're known for, There's gotta be a reason. Maybe it's just that spirit is the largest of the three.

It will be interesting to see if this stops after the company becomes JetBlue.

Probably the same reason people say “coke” when they want a carbonated drink in some parts of the country. The brand “coke” is synonymous with the drink type. Spirit is the “coke” of cheap flying and the incidents from it. Like I said, it’s the established punching bag and will continue to be because “Spirit” has that established connotation, no matter if the airline has issues or not from this point on, it’s funny because it’s Spirit. It’s not that complicated, they are an easy well known target that gets the laughs.

And to the big boy with his hands behind his back, sticking up for the woman who initiated assault and battery against the agent, what a joke. Such a tough guy, like she was an innocent.

avi8orco 08-14-2022 08:39 AM

Can we work body armor and tasers into the JCBA? We get our share on the B6 side but I just don’t see the stuff NK deals with in my 10 years wearing a blue shirt.

SonicFlyer 08-14-2022 08:44 AM

I suspect because the airports Allegiant flies into have a much lower stress and hassle factor whereas Spirit flies into some Class B airports. Also Allegiant is specifically for vacationers on a leisurely trip and designed that way. Spirit is again more like Greyhound.

That's my best guess to be honest.

Margaritaville 08-14-2022 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 3477439)
I suspect because the airports Allegiant flies into have a much lower stress and hassle factor whereas Spirit flies into some Class B airports. Also Allegiant is specifically for vacationers on a leisurely trip and designed that way. Spirit is again more like Greyhound.

That's my best guess to be honest.

Yeah, I can see that. While we do fly into some major airports, most of our passengers are vacation/leisure travelers while Spirit flies to the same places as the legacies and is meant to be a cheaper substitute. Maybe that just attracts a lower class customer, though SWA also does that and doesn't seem to have this problem. NK seems to have more passengers with garbage bags for suitcases in the gate house.

Again, it will be interesting to see how this plays out after the merger. Maybe Frontier will take that crown.

Fah2 08-14-2022 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3477445)
Yeah, I can see that. While we do fly into some major airports, most of our passengers are vacation/leisure travelers while Spirit flies to the same places as the legacies and is meant to be a cheaper substitute. Maybe that just attracts a lower class customer, though SWA also does that and doesn't seem to have this problem. NK seems to have more passengers with garbage bags for suitcases in the gate house.

Again, it will be interesting to see how this plays out after the merger. Maybe Frontier will take that crown.

These types of Karens, which exist in all markets and from all backgrounds, aren’t just going to stop flying because they have to spend another $100 to ride another carrier.

Spirit may have concentrated them in a few markets, but videos like these happen on every airline. Even the luxury of mint didn’t stop a celebrity death match with Chad and the champ.

JulesWinfield 08-14-2022 09:55 AM

We definitely have more children on a leash than any other airline, that's for sure.

dualinput 08-14-2022 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 3477391)
Gawd I can't wait for the trash bag crowd to have only one choice of airlines they can afford. Just 3-5 more years, maybe. 🤣

I couldn’t agree more. Can happen anywhere but happens with substantially more frequency here and so many more incidents that are very close to a fight.

I’m so burnt out on it


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