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Old 08-18-2022 | 08:48 AM
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Old 08-18-2022 | 09:01 AM
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Got a seat in the back, thanks, my train ride from Miami was worth it
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Old 08-18-2022 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Armyguy
Got a seat in the back, thanks, my train ride from Miami was worth it
A320 jumpseats are better than 737 jumpseats, but they are still jumpseats.
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Old 08-18-2022 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
I wonder how many man hours they lose and delays they take for this. Seems crazy that a Vegas based operation removes fans.
Yeah I don't know the cost to purchase them with the plane, but it has to be less than the lifespan of the aircraft when compared to the fans and manpower wasted due to the hot brakes.
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Old 08-18-2022 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
Yeah I don't know the cost to purchase them with the plane, but it has to be less than the lifespan of the aircraft when compared to the fans and manpower wasted due to the hot brakes.
I think the brake fans are a perfect example, a microcosm, of how out of touch management is with operations.

They have stated that portable brake fans are cheaper than the mx involved with the ones on the planes, so they opted for the portable ones. They totally discounted the mx that needs to be done on the portable fans and what happens when they brake. So when they brake, as they are now, you have the delays in departures and gate holds, while they allocate a ramper, understaffed as well, to move one fan from wheel to wheel while others remain broke.

It’s such a disconnect. I personally don’t leave the gate unless every wheel is under 150 in LAS and if that takes a delay, oh well. Brakes catching fire isn’t something I take lightly so I’ll occupy that gate as long as it takes for them to cool with that one brake fan. Sorry to those waiting in the North teardrop ramp for the gate to open.

It’s like why do we even bother acting like gate air works and take up the rampers time hooking it up? How many calls a day does ops get with “disconnect, blowing hot” and they keep hooking it up every time, every day, every summer, every year. Just a disconnect.
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Old 08-18-2022 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo

It’s like why do we even bother acting like gate air works and take up the rampers time hooking it up? How many calls a day does ops get with “disconnect, blowing hot” and they keep hooking it up every time, every day, every summer, every year. Just a disconnect.
This needs to be CC'd to every Spirit Captain at the start of every summer. I have no idea why we keep playing this little gate air dance.
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Old 08-18-2022 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Macjet
This needs to be CC'd to every Spirit Captain at the start of every summer. I have no idea why we keep playing this little gate air dance.
Agreed. I just go down and turn it off on the walk around now, don't bother even asking. I am not going sweat like a pig because the gates are 2 decades old and can't blow cold.
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Old 08-18-2022 | 10:07 PM
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A319 -502-532 2-J/S
A320 -602-604-697-698 - 2 J/S
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Old 08-19-2022 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
Agreed. I just go down and turn it off on the walk around now, don't bother even asking. I am not going sweat like a pig because the gates are 2 decades old and can't blow cold.
I get this logic and have done the same. The only problem is that picking up the slack with all the inadequacies we work with daily only exacerbates the problem and allows C suites to look the other way and not address the real issues we have on the line daily. Man, what a run on sentence!

I say let the valves chatter away.
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Old 08-19-2022 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by sioux8ships
I get this logic and have done the same. The only problem is that picking up the slack with all the inadequacies we work with daily only exacerbates the problem and allows C suites to look the other way and not address the real issues we have on the line daily. Man, what a run on sentence!

I say let the valves chatter away.
Same. I’ll call twice to remove the air. If after 2 calls and 10 minutes, it’s not unhooked, oh well. I can’t see the air hooked up so I’ll assume it’s off. By the way, I see MX constantly running the APU bleed with air hooked up.

Way too much slack being picked up by the pilots, it’s the curse of the Type A mindset for many. And we wonder why policies come thru to have pilots stay on the plane until all the passengers are deplaned. Thankfully this has been changed, but we have to stop picking up there slack time after time.
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