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Tx Paratroopr 12-15-2022 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3552949)
My expectation was rates a bit better than this, plus improvements to our profit sharing plan, you know, like all my peers. The snap-up helps with the rates, for sure, and the bonus helps with the profit sharing, at least for the next two years. But after that it's big losses relative to my peers.

It will take some time, but hopefully eventually you will stop seeing yourself as Mr. Discount Pilot Guy.

As you can see from our snap-up, JB pilots intend to be in the hunt with the top 4-5 passenger airlines, although admittedly they are taking a couple years to get there fully'ish.

What a time to be a PILOT.

Ignore halon I think he'd have us flying for 2012 rates I'd he could.

Halon1211 12-15-2022 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3552949)
My expectation was rates a bit better than this, plus improvements to our profit sharing plan, you know, like all my peers. The snap-up helps with the rates, for sure, and the bonus helps with the profit sharing, at least for the next two years. But after that it's big losses relative to my peers.

It will take some time, but hopefully eventually you will stop seeing yourself as Mr. Discount Pilot Guy.

As you can see from our snap-up, JB pilots intend to be in the hunt with the top 4-5 passenger airlines, although admittedly they are taking a couple years to get there fully'ish.

What a time to be a PILOT.

Yes, someday I will learn what you tough me Bluedriver…Untill then I feel for you walking down the terminal walking past a Delta or United pilot and know that your Peni…I mean profit sharing doesn’t measure up. That feel king have to over compensate because your pay rate is so small.

but for me Mr. discount airline pilot guy all I care about is how cool I look with my sweet jacket when I walk by…

fumeevented 12-15-2022 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3552949)

It will take some time, but hopefully eventually you will stop seeing yourself as Mr. Discount Pilot Guy.

A-effen-men.

So sick of that attitude among some guys here.

IAFDOF 12-15-2022 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3552958)
Untill then I feel for you walking down the terminal walking past a Delta or United pilot and know that your Peni…I mean profit sharing doesn’t measure up.

Speak for yourself. I’ve never felt insecure around legacy guys; a huge number of them are horribly miserable, unpleasant people. I wouldn’t ever trade my life for theirs.

And the ones who aren’t, which is a growing majority, they understand and act like we’re all in this together, because we are. Thankfully the miserable ones are retiring in droves…

But maybe we can get those sweet jackets in our JCBA?

povertyeagle 12-15-2022 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by IAFDOF (Post 3552981)
Speak for yourself. I’ve never felt insecure around legacy guys; a huge number of them are horribly miserable, unpleasant people. I wouldn’t ever trade my life for theirs.

And the ones who aren’t, which is a growing majority, they understand and act like we’re all in this together, because we are. Thankfully the miserable ones are retiring in droves…

But maybe we can get those sweet jackets in our JCBA?

B6 had cool leather jackets until the British took over. Then it became unprofessional.

IAFDOF 12-15-2022 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by povertyeagle (Post 3552987)
B6 had cool leather jackets until the British took over. Then it became unprofessional.

And yet, sweaters… :p

Halon1211 12-15-2022 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by IAFDOF (Post 3552981)
Speak for yourself. I’ve never felt insecure around legacy guys; a huge number of them are horribly miserable, unpleasant people. I wouldn’t ever trade my life for theirs.

And the ones who aren’t, which is a growing majority, they understand and act like we’re all in this together, because we are. Thankfully the miserable ones are retiring in droves…

But maybe we can get those sweet jackets in our JCBA?

So why do you think they are so miserable? Maybe because they are alway b!tching about how they should get paid more than the other guys.

after reading the Spirit and JetBlue forums you would think it’s a bunch of American pilots.

CincoDeMayo 12-16-2022 02:39 AM


Originally Posted by povertyeagle (Post 3552987)
B6 had cool leather jackets until the British took over. Then it became unprofessional.

British. Please. Need to remind them who won the war

Merica

Fah2 12-16-2022 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3552949)
My expectation was rates a bit better than this, plus improvements to our profit sharing plan, you know, like all my peers. The snap-up helps with the rates, for sure, and the bonus helps with the profit sharing, at least for the next two years. But after that it's big losses relative to my peers.

It will take some time, but hopefully eventually you will stop seeing yourself as Mr. Discount Pilot Guy.

As you can see from our snap-up, JB pilots intend to be in the hunt with the top 4-5 passenger airlines, although admittedly they are taking a couple years to get there fully'ish.

What a time to be a PILOT.

For one brief fleeting moment we agree

BusBoi 12-16-2022 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by IAFDOF (Post 3553025)
And yet, sweaters… :p

I LOVE sweaters.

PSU Flyer 12-16-2022 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by IAFDOF (Post 3552981)
Speak for yourself. I’ve never felt insecure around legacy guys; a huge number of them are horribly miserable, unpleasant people. I wouldn’t ever trade my life for theirs.

And the ones who aren’t, which is a growing majority, they understand and act like we’re all in this together, because we are. Thankfully the miserable ones are retiring in droves…

But maybe we can get those sweet jackets in our JCBA?

No offense, but we’re really not all in this together when they keep setting the bar and we just keep riding their coattails.

hockeypilot44 12-17-2022 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3552937)
not good enough??? Top captain $320/hour X 82 hours/month that making ≈$315,000 a year and that’s not good enough…Wow what a time to be alive

Cheapest Cadillac Sedan is about $40,000. Narrowbody captains used to have that equivalent salary per month. We should be making around $480 per hour.

Halon1211 12-17-2022 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 3554154)
Cheapest Cadillac Sedan is about $40,000. Narrowbody captains used to have that equivalent salary per month. We should be making around $480 per hour.


but I drive a Hyundai…

Noisecanceller 12-17-2022 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3554177)
but I drive a Hyundai…

And that’s fine but we need to stop thinking like discount airline guy with a Hyundai even if that makes us happy. It’s time to put some ego into it and start thinking like a Major big swinging dick airline pilot that that cashes fat stacks and buys Ferraris. Even if you’re happy in your Hyundai it’s time to make Ferrari money.

Most very high earners bring an incredible amount of ego to their negotiations. It’s time we start acting the same.

Airline pilots are trained to be rational thinkers and risk averse. It’s time we check that at the door because it’s being taken advantage of

symbian simian 12-17-2022 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3554177)
but I drive a Hyundai…

smells like Yuri. we are not mercedes pilots, we are hunday pilots (in finnish accent)

P28A AV8R 12-17-2022 10:58 PM

Nah...... Mazda pilot here. Still working on that Miata tho. Maybe after that JCBA.

Noisecanceller 12-18-2022 02:45 AM


Originally Posted by P28A AV8R (Post 3554473)
Nah...... Mazda pilot here. Still working on that Miata tho. Maybe after that JCBA.

You’ll get it on the next bite of the apple I promise. Next time for sure. Really, I promise


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