Drop To Zero
12-19-2023 | 03:49 PM
#41
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Either way, we need this JCBA to work for everyone, not just the people who happen to be from or want to live in small number of yellow/blue bases.
12-19-2023 | 03:55 PM
#42
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I've worked under both variable RAPs (awarded in theory by seniority on a daily basis) and consistent RAPs awarded with the monthly schedule. I prefer the consistent ones (especially when we had line bidding and there was accountability for who was awarded what RAP per reserve line).
I think the only other area that I like NKs reserve work rules is that our LCR to SCR payout is at your hourly rate and not a flat rate, and we have fewer involuntary conversions....
I think the only other area that I like NKs reserve work rules is that our LCR to SCR payout is at your hourly rate and not a flat rate, and we have fewer involuntary conversions....
12-19-2023 | 03:57 PM
#43
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Can someone share the details of Spirit's Drop To Zero policy? I've heard it's great for QOL. Are there any limits on dropping on certain dates (holidays, low reserve coverage, etc...)? Can you drop to 0 hours in a month, or are you required to pick up to a minimum threshold? If you can drop to 0 hours in a month, are there limits to how often you can do this in a year? What other airlines offer this? Thanks in advance.
You can’t drop to zero when on reserve. Makes sense that they need the reserve coverage.
If your schedule is finalized for the month and you’re on reserve - your reserve days can get moved around and your schedule isn’t really final until 72 hours prior to that date. If you want it off you get 4 immovable days off per month at your request that have to be made ahead of time.
12-19-2023 | 04:30 PM
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I've worked under both variable RAPs (awarded in theory by seniority on a daily basis) and consistent RAPs awarded with the monthly schedule. I prefer the consistent ones (especially when we had line bidding and there was accountability for who was awarded what RAP per reserve line).
I think the only other area that I like NKs reserve work rules is that our LCR to SCR payout is at your hourly rate and not a flat rate, and we have fewer involuntary conversions....
I think the only other area that I like NKs reserve work rules is that our LCR to SCR payout is at your hourly rate and not a flat rate, and we have fewer involuntary conversions....
I agree, LCR to SCR needs to pay real money, and should come with a hotel room for the escalation.
12-19-2023 | 04:34 PM
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If your schedule is finalized for the month and you’re on reserve - your reserve days can get moved around and your schedule isn’t really final until 72 hours prior to that date. If you want it off you get 4 immovable days off per month at your request that have to be made ahead of time.
12-19-2023 | 04:55 PM
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12-19-2023 | 05:07 PM
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1 hour of pay for each of the first 4 conversions (our max involuntary), 2 hours for every subsequent conversion (voluntary). The comparison guide said you guys get a flat $100, is that accurate??
12-19-2023 | 05:11 PM
#49
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Even one hour is not nearly enough, but better than our $100. Just for perspective, we've only ever had ONE full CBA negotiations. So there are definitely many things that need to be cleaned up. But we also have some good stuff.
12-20-2023 | 05:42 AM
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Here are some things I’ve learned at Spirit that I wasn’t told before hand.
You can’t drop to zero when on reserve. Makes sense that they need the reserve coverage.
If your schedule is finalized for the month and you’re on reserve - your reserve days can get moved around and your schedule isn’t really final until 72 hours prior to that date. If you want it off you get 4 immovable days off per month at your request that have to be made ahead of time.
You can’t drop to zero when on reserve. Makes sense that they need the reserve coverage.
If your schedule is finalized for the month and you’re on reserve - your reserve days can get moved around and your schedule isn’t really final until 72 hours prior to that date. If you want it off you get 4 immovable days off per month at your request that have to be made ahead of time.
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