Commuted 7 years at a regional bc I have a family member that has commuted 35+ years and thinks it’s “no big deal”. Wrong!

I moved to a spirit base and it changed my life. While there are other places that are not bases that I’d rather live the ROI on earnings and overall QOL would be negative. I bid rsv often along with lines.

This is how in person jobs work. You move to where the job is. The beauty of this job is you actually get more than several choices for the same job at the same company.

At a normal job if your position no longer exists at your home you can either move or leave the company. This “ability” to commute is a complete farce and a curse for pilots.

There are very few things that would cost the company much money when it comes to helping commuters out so I’m not against them. It’s just that aside from being home based and paid commutes there isn’t very much that will dramatically change life for commuters. It’s like the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Commuters are always chasing something that doesn’t exist. The commute is all they think about. Meanwhile they’re always grumpy and always tired.

I stand corrected. Union email is out. This is the kind of total trash that is peppered throughout our CBA that was never utilized by spirit bc they never really knew how so we never changed it. Add RAP shift to that list. Spirits ULCC staffing in HQ always created inefficiencies that almost always cost more money than they saved on payroll in support roles at HQ. Looks like they are starting to have their cake and eat it too. This change is also going to have an affect on the amount of premium pay events generated from lack of rsv availability. Well I guess I’m never bidding rsv again.

from Union email -

"The Company has recently started using movable days off for pilots on reserve. While this action marks a significant change in management behavior, the contract is clear in terms of how this process works (CBA Section 25.K.5.m.4). For example, Crew Scheduling can add reserve days up to 72 hours before the movable day off. So, if the pilot has days of reserve from the 1st through the 4th of the month, the Company can add a day on the 5th if they notify the pilot no later than 0001 on the 2nd."

Which part exactly, is inaccurate?

reference post #52 chief

Sounds like the JB crew scheduling team has entered the building in FLL. They will bend, twist, break every line of language that they can.

All the tricks come out of the bag when it is a peak holiday period or critical staffing. Then everyone raises a stink, the company recedes before there’s enough energy to file a grievance, then repeat process in a few months when they get desperate again.

I'm almost the opposite, lived in base several years for my regional, been commuting to Blue for a long time. I've lived both, and understand the difference. Still, many of us (I think around 50% of JB) chose to live where we want and commute. You are free to have your opinions, as we all are. Still, commuting is a reality of this industry, and we need this JCBA to work for all of us... And many are one base-closure away from being commuters again, because not everyone is gonna uproot the whole family every time this industry shifts again. Spirit has more than one base hanging in the balance, hopefully it doesn't come to that, but yet it is true. You live in one of Spirit's CORE safe bases? Good for you, and I'm glad. Don't assume everyone will or should make your life choices.

While I have my tired moments, I am FAR from unhappy. Quite the contrary to be honest, have most of life by-the-balls these days. Even still, I think you could guess the one thing I would change without ruining a bunch of other things, if I could.

The ability to step away from the Spirit forum?

This is how the entire working population lives. Companies relocate all the time or you have to move for a promotion etc. People uproot their families everyday to move for a job. You act as if this is abnormal.

Nope. Sorry about your luck.

Um yeah, I don't know how to tell you this but being a pilot isn't "just any old job". We don't HAVE to move and give it take in the ballpark of half of your peers chose to live somewhere other than an airline hub, or a city where their airline doesn't base pilots.

Comparing our careers in the way you are reminds me of the pilots who are happy with industry trailing pay and benefits because "I still make more than all my neighbors and friends outside aviation"...

Be better my friend.
​​​​​​