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Is this really even a day off?
Ned’s Kids,
just wanted to give you all a public service announcement for any one on reserve. The company has made an unprecedented move, some thing that’s never been exercised in our contracts in the past. They are starting to utilize the movable days off as you have a read about in the union email. POV: You’re excited, you just got the weekend off that you wanted too as a Reserve line holder, but then now crew scheduling calls you and says they moved your day off and you no longer have that weekend off. So as an NK Pilot, do you really have 12 days off or do you really have 8 days off? How can you even plan for anything if you don’t know for sure if you have that day off? Just some food for thought. |
Originally Posted by Halon1211
(Post 3750844)
Ned’s Kids,
just wanted to give you all a public service announcement for any one on reserve. The company has made an unprecedented move, some thing that’s never been exercised in our contracts in the past. They are starting to utilize the movable days off as you have a read about in the union email. POV: You’re excited, you just got the weekend off that you wanted too as a Reserve line holder, but then now crew scheduling calls you and says they moved your day off and you no longer have that weekend off. So as an NK Pilot, do you really have 12 days off or do you really have 8 days off? How can you even plan for anything if you don’t know for sure if you have that day off? Just some food for thought. |
Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3750957)
I can tell you put a lot of thought into this. You’re completely wrong, but I bet it sounded great in your head
so if you’re on reserve and they can give you a trip on your days off, then your days off are just shuffled around and that’s not wrong? |
Originally Posted by Halon1211
(Post 3750977)
haha, I’m wrong?
so if you’re on reserve and they can give you a trip on your days off, then your days off are just shuffled around and that’s not wrong? Does anyone like movable vs non movable days? Is it something we should make sure isn’t in a JCBA, yes. But when JBLU guys are trying to get an understanding of our contract and you spin nonsense, like normal, well that’s hard to do Also, the irony on the JBLU forum you were stroking over the awesome NK QOL, and how it’s unmatched, and then you come here and exaggerate and cry about losing days off. |
Originally Posted by Halon1211
(Post 3750977)
haha, I’m wrong?
so if you’re on reserve and they can give you a trip on your days off, then your days off are just shuffled around and that’s not wrong? Then you asked if it's wrong. You're asking a moral question. Two different subjects. If you're asking if it's wrong as a legal question, you're back to determining if it's a day free of all duty to the company, known prospectively. Is it? |
Originally Posted by Halon1211
(Post 3750844)
Ned’s Kids,
just wanted to give you all a public service announcement for any one on reserve. The company has made an unprecedented move, some thing that’s never been exercised in our contracts in the past. They are starting to utilize the movable days off as you have a read about in the union email. POV: You’re excited, you just got the weekend off that you wanted too as a Reserve line holder, but then now crew scheduling calls you and says they moved your day off and you no longer have that weekend off. So as an NK Pilot, do you really have 12 days off or do you really have 8 days off? How can you even plan for anything if you don’t know for sure if you have that day off? Just some food for thought. |
Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3750981)
You’re a fool, like always. It’s not that simple as you claim, it’s not 8 days off vs 12. There is a process
Does anyone like movable vs non movable days? Is it something we should make sure isn’t in a JCBA, yes. But when JBLU guys are trying to get an understanding of our contract and you spin nonsense, like normal, well that’s hard to do Also, the irony on the JBLU forum you were stroking over the awesome NK QOL, and how it’s unmatched, and then you come here and exaggerate and cry about losing days off. and just because I bellyache about one thing in our contract doesn’t mean our QOL is now sh!t. |
Originally Posted by Halon1211
(Post 3751027)
How can I plan something on “my day off” when it’s not really a day off. Sure they eventually make it up to me, but still you can’t plan on anything.
and just because I bellyache about one thing in our contract doesn’t mean our QOL is now sh!t. |
Originally Posted by Halon1211
(Post 3750844)
Ned’s Kids,
just wanted to give you all a public service announcement for any one on reserve. The company has made an unprecedented move, some thing that’s never been exercised in our contracts in the past. They are starting to utilize the movable days off as you have a read about in the union email. POV: You’re excited, you just got the weekend off that you wanted too as a Reserve line holder, but then now crew scheduling calls you and says they moved your day off and you no longer have that weekend off. So as an NK Pilot, do you really have 12 days off or do you really have 8 days off? How can you even plan for anything if you don’t know for sure if you have that day off? Just some food for thought. Movable days off is a non-starter in the JCBA. No way, no how, no thank you. |
Originally Posted by Halon1211
(Post 3750844)
Ned’s Kids,
just wanted to give you all a public service announcement for any one on reserve. The company has made an unprecedented move, some thing that’s never been exercised in our contracts in the past. They are starting to utilize the movable days off as you have a read about in the union email. POV: You’re excited, you just got the weekend off that you wanted too as a Reserve line holder, but then now crew scheduling calls you and says they moved your day off and you no longer have that weekend off. So as an NK Pilot, do you really have 12 days off or do you really have 8 days off? How can you even plan for anything if you don’t know for sure if you have that day off? Just some food for thought. NK is dropping your weekends off to zero. |
Originally Posted by BananaHammock
(Post 3751025)
If you're answering your phone on your day off you're an idiot above and beyond the idiot you make yourself out to be by not knowing the contract.
no, I think you would be the idiot because if you read the contract it says they would utilize that during your RAP…not on a day off. 🤦♂️ |
Originally Posted by Wasntme
(Post 3751116)
NK is dropping your weekends off to zero.
Thats awesome! |
Originally Posted by Flyby1206
(Post 3751102)
The JB influence is already showing up at NK. They will exploit and twist every sentence of the CBA so language needs to be super tight.
Movable days off is a non-starter in the JCBA. No way, no how, no thank you. |
Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
(Post 3751204)
25 yr old language never used and complacent NC and a pilot group that doesn’t read TAs and here we are.
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
(Post 3751239)
We’re guilty of it as well, hopefully learning has occurred and we don’t make the same mistakes in the JCBA.
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It's the same thing with the language that lets them hold you nat the airport indefinitely for reassignment instead of going to your layover. I never understood how the NC/MEC lets this slip.
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
(Post 3751102)
The JB influence is already showing up at NK. They will exploit and twist every sentence of the CBA so language needs to be super tight.
Movable days off is a non-starter in the JCBA. No way, no how, no thank you. |
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