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Jetpilot26047 01-25-2024 02:09 PM

Union “Vote of No Confidence “
 
TC and company in 2019 was handed a company that was at the top of earning from any Airline and now look at us. Why our union isn't calling for a "Vote of No Confidence " is unbelievable. TC and company have driven this company to it current status always externalizing the the problems we are facing but Necer taking into account their own mistakes with Spirit. Frontier is growing, open8ng up new bases, etc and Spirit is Shrinking by the moment, no new hires, no upgrades, etc. Everyone wants to blame Al kinds of problems on merger gone bad, whatever., I say it squarely on TC lack of management skills. Go ahead bashers, I know it's coming, let's here what your 2-3 maybe years of experience has to say.

CatPilot1 01-26-2024 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by Jetpilot26047 (Post 3758657)
TC and company in 2019 was handed a company that was at the top of earning from any Airline and now look at us. Why our union isn't calling for a "Vote of No Confidence " is unbelievable. TC and company have driven this company to it current status always externalizing the the problems we are facing but Necer taking into account their own mistakes with Spirit. Frontier is growing, open8ng up new bases, etc and Spirit is Shrinking by the moment, no new hires, no upgrades, etc. Everyone wants to blame Al kinds of problems on merger gone bad, whatever., I say it squarely on TC lack of management skills. Go ahead bashers, I know it's coming, let's hear what your 2-3 maybe years of experience has to say.


He did say we should take the Frontier deal, maybe the shareholders should have listened? Nope the shareholders got greedy and here we are.

310god 01-26-2024 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by CatPilot1 (Post 3759116)
He did say we should take the Frontier deal, maybe the shareholders should have listened? Nope the shareholders got greedy and here we are.

Yep. Shareholders got greedy even when they were advised it wouldn't go through. Now they are going to lose it all, and we're stuck in the middle of it. What really scares me right now is how literally everyone can see this merger is dead except our management. Spirit is like the insecure ex-boyfriend begging his girlfriend to stay, when she is giving all signs she wants to bail. Let's scrape whetever dignity we have left, get back to what we were doing before this whole mess came into play, and get an entirelty new managment team.

CatPilot1 01-26-2024 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by 310god (Post 3759130)
Yep. Shareholders got greedy even when they were advised it wouldn't go through. Now they are going to lose it all, and we're stuck in the middle of it. What really scares me right now is how literally everyone can see this merger is dead except our management. Spirit is like the insecure ex-boyfriend begging his girlfriend to stay, when she is giving all signs she wants to bail. Let's scrape whetever dignity we have left, get back to what we were doing before this whole mess came into play, and get an entirelty new managment team.

Spirit wants the 70 million. I think JB is trying to weasel out of paying it.

Noisecanceller 01-26-2024 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by Jetpilot26047 (Post 3758657)
TC and company in 2019 was handed a company that was at the top of earning from any Airline and now look at us. Why our union isn't calling for a "Vote of No Confidence " is unbelievable. TC and company have driven this company to it current status always externalizing the the problems we are facing but Necer taking into account their own mistakes with Spirit. Frontier is growing, open8ng up new bases, etc and Spirit is Shrinking by the moment, no new hires, no upgrades, etc. Everyone wants to blame Al kinds of problems on merger gone bad, whatever., I say it squarely on TC lack of management skills. Go ahead bashers, I know it's coming, let's here what your 2-3 maybe years of experience has to say.


Frontier is not profitable and the business model is dead. Frontier wouldn’t have been approved either.

But yes TC ruined the company. I agree on that.

310god 01-26-2024 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by CatPilot1 (Post 3759132)
Spirit wants the 70 million. I think JB is trying to weasel out of paying it.

I don't know why I totally forgot about the 70 mil. You're right.

afterburn81 01-26-2024 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by CatPilot1 (Post 3759116)
He did say we should take the Frontier deal, maybe the shareholders should have listened? Nope the shareholders got greedy and here we are.

Zinga! And all the guys that thought they were gonna suddenly become JB pilots on a JB payscale. Nothing is that easy. Management was kicking and screaming. Telling everyone it’s a bad idea. Sure, no one wanted to work for Frankie. Can’t argue that. But the alternative is to find a new job. Could have just done that in the first place and been years ahead of what appears to be a slowing of hiring at some key airlines.

APCHCLIMB 01-26-2024 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by 310god (Post 3759130)
Yep. Shareholders got greedy even when they were advised it wouldn't go through. Now they are going to lose it all, and we're stuck in the middle of it. What really scares me right now is how literally everyone can see this merger is dead except our management. Spirit is like the insecure ex-boyfriend begging his girlfriend to stay, when she is giving all signs she wants to bail. Let's scrape whetever dignity we have left, get back to what we were doing before this whole mess came into play, and get an entirelty new managment team.

Hard to go back to the bachelor life when your side piece, Pratt and Whitney, left you with a gnarly venereal disease. You thought you were getting a deal with that cheap floozie. She ruined you, and your relationship with your ex.

Stayontarget 01-26-2024 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3759133)
Frontier is not profitable and the business model is dead. Frontier wouldn’t have been approved either.

But yes TC ruined the company. I agree on that.

On and on and on about ULCC being dead. Can we at least wait until Q4 financials come out to see if F9 lost money for the year? The overwhelming thought on this board was JB would be approved so any opinion on why a future merger will/wont be approved should be viewed with extreme skepticism.

APCHCLIMB 01-26-2024 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by Stayontarget (Post 3759189)
On and on and on about ULCC being dead. Can we at least wait until Q4 financials come out to see if F9 lost money for the year? The overwhelming thought on this board was JB would be approved so any opinion on why a future merger will/wont be approved should be viewed with extreme skepticism.

I still laugh when people take career advice from this site… last week it was stock options. Some people got what they deserved. Lolz.

Who’s gonna succeed, who’ll fail, who won’t exist, or merge. And it’s so arrogantly certain how some people say it too. I bet half theee people aren’t even good at their own job. Yet, they know how to run airlines, and which vaccines everyone should take. Please.


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