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Halon1211 08-31-2024 02:50 AM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3833424)
10000000000%. Not a single one of them will ever come back.


not exactly true. A lot of them are 1500 hour CFI’s, i’ve flown with a few guys and gals that can’t get jobs at any other airlines (even regionals) because they are low time and lots of regionals arnt even hiring. Maybe they will bounce later on.

CincoDeMayo 08-31-2024 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3833453)
not exactly true. A lot of them are 1500 hour CFI’s, i’ve flown with a few guys and gals that can’t get jobs at any other airlines (even regionals) because they are low time and lots of regionals arnt even hiring. Maybe they will bounce later on.

Dont agree with this. The MEC has worked deals with other airlines for pref interviews for the furloughed pilots. Specifically mentioned are 2 regional airlines, one giving longevity credit and 1 offering street CA positions with a $200k sign on bonus. In addition, a few more airlines are listed with pref interviewing for our pilots. This is much better than what many of us saw in 2008.

I mentioned to one soon to be furloughed FO that read there are street CA positions available at some regionals and his response was “yeah, but I don’t like those bases.”🙄

I think many are looking for a lateral move to an Airbus/737 and that’s mainly fantasy land unless you want to work overseas or some funky Miami based operator. In the end, they are low time and low experience, welcome to the airlines

rickair7777 08-31-2024 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by Spicy (Post 3833229)
Lots of people quoting and making a big deal out of these "seekingAlpha" posts please take a second to see who is writing them. It is a group of two dudes freshly out of undergrad. Interesting book report/summary of available information but not the people you look to when trying to figure out what our path moving forward might be.

I give them slightly more credence than anonymous posts on pilot web boards. They seem to do the research, and might dig up and point out some facts that the likes of us weren't aware of. But as you say, that doesn't mean they have any special analytic or prediction skills. Warren Buffet they are not.

Brownose74 08-31-2024 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3833502)
Dont agree with this. The MEC has worked deals with other airlines for pref interviews for the furloughed pilots. Specifically mentioned are 2 regional airlines, one giving longevity credit and 1 offering street CA positions with a $200k sign on bonus. In addition, a few more airlines are listed with pref interviewing for our pilots. This is much better than what many of us saw in 2008.

I mentioned to one soon to be furloughed FO that read there are street CA positions available at some regionals and his response was “yeah, but I don’t like those bases.”🙄

I think many are looking for a lateral move to an Airbus/737 and that’s mainly fantasy land unless you want to work overseas or some funky Miami based operator. In the end, they are low time and low experience, welcome to the airlines

sad to see young aviators stain their resumes by working for global X. I know a job is a job, but man they are going to regret that so badly. Hopefully they make it out with out a pink slip or a violation. I’d take silver airways over that 36st poop stain.

Noisecanceller 08-31-2024 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3833502)
Dont agree with this. The MEC has worked deals with other airlines for pref interviews for the furloughed pilots. Specifically mentioned are 2 regional airlines, one giving longevity credit and 1 offering street CA positions with a $200k sign on bonus. In addition, a few more airlines are listed with pref interviewing for our pilots. This is much better than what many of us saw in 2008.

I mentioned to one soon to be furloughed FO that read there are street CA positions available at some regionals and his response was “yeah, but I don’t like those bases.”🙄

I think many are looking for a lateral move to an Airbus/737 and that’s mainly fantasy land unless you want to work overseas or some funky Miami based operator. In the end, they are low time and low experience, welcome to the airlines

Yep, it’s a painful reality check. Historically speaking many of them probably wouldn’t have ever been here in the first place. I’m not saying their careers have to be crappy because so many of ours were but expecting to have 1500hrs and have taken your first discovery flight 2 years ago, and be making $150k in an airbus is just plain lucky. Now they can make $100k in an RJ as a fall back. Not exactly dire straights so many of us lived after 9/11 or 2008. If they don’t want to fly at night, or instruct, or fly props, or even an rj for $100k bc of the bases or whatever, well, that’s on them.

PineappleXpres 08-31-2024 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3833664)
Yep, it’s a painful reality check. Historically speaking many of them probably wouldn’t have ever been here in the first place. I’m not saying their careers have to be crappy because so many of ours were but expecting to have 1500hrs and have taken your first discovery flight 2 years ago, and be making $150k in an airbus is just plain lucky. Now they can make $100k in an RJ as a fall back. Not exactly dire straights so many of us lived after 9/11 or 2008. If they don’t want to fly at night, or instruct, or fly props, or even an rj for $100k bc of the bases or whatever, well, that’s on them.

This is gold.

It’s not such a blow for those who are young and have no college degree. They can have some flying adventures before Spirit recalls them. As long as the big 3 are hiring, they should get a call back from spirit.

Chimpy 09-01-2024 04:07 AM


Originally Posted by PineappleXpres (Post 3833677)
This is gold.

It’s not such a blow for those who are young and have no college degree. They can have some flying adventures before Spirit recalls them. As long as the big 3 are hiring, they should get a call back from spirit.

I assume their frustration comes from seeing their friends who got their PPLs in 2020, spend 2 months at NK and then bounced to a legacy and are now sitting on a Widebody at 3rd year pay or NB CA making $340/hr. The problem is they don’t know how lucky their friends are or just how miserable the lost decade was. It’s not their fault I guess they just don’t know what they don’t know

Salukipilot4590 09-01-2024 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by Brownose74 (Post 3833525)
I’d take silver airways over that 36st poop stain.

I beg your most detailed pardon....

Brownose74 09-02-2024 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590 (Post 3833846)
I beg your most detailed pardon....

silver class of ‘11-‘14

;)

Salukipilot4590 09-02-2024 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by Brownose74 (Post 3834015)
silver class of ‘11-‘14

;)

Ayyyy!!! Nvm, you know what's up!


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