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Halon1211 05-09-2024 04:44 PM

The plan going forward
 
TC alluded to this a lot in the earnings call. But the plan in the mean time before another merger is we are going to change to a full service airline (Yes, this will be the big announcement that he talked about for June or August) He mentioned people that no matter what will avoid Spirit no matter how cheap because of the bad experience.

So when we go to a full service airline we are also going to be getting rid of the name Spirit (it’s been tarnished) I believe the short list for the new name of the airline are Clever Airlines, Voyage Air Lines (Delta way to spell Airline…makes it extra gravitas), or Harmony Airways. We will get rid of the loud yellow color and have proper uniforms for all employees.

but going back to what I said in the beginning this is in the mean time while we wait for another merger. Spirit was never meant to be around for the long haul. Signs in the industry point to Southwest or Frontier again. (And before you ask, both airlines would be an actual Merger and NOT an acquisition)

2UZFE 05-09-2024 04:56 PM

Flight crews aside, a customer service culture shift will be a very hard thing to do

Noisecanceller 05-09-2024 06:54 PM

Still Spirit name and still yellow. Did you even listen to the call?

Halon1211 05-09-2024 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3800646)
Still Spirit name and still yellow. Did you even listen to the call?


Yes I did. But that’s what is GOING to be announced.

nene 05-09-2024 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3800651)
Yes I did. But that’s what is GOING to be announced.

But where will all the public fighters go to fly?

Does full service mean, IFE, wifi, lounges, and different seating plans?

ridinhigh 05-09-2024 08:19 PM

So the one pax the DOJ saved by blocking the merger is now Fuuuuked anyway!
awesome
thanks
.gov

rickair7777 05-09-2024 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3800589)
(And before you ask, both airlines would be an actual Merger and NOT an acquisition)

Frontier, sure.

SWA? Yeah about that...

StoneQOLdCrazy 05-10-2024 07:48 AM

Please let it be Clever Airlines

JohnDeSpacito 05-10-2024 08:44 AM

Where do people come up with this ****?

CatPilot1 05-10-2024 09:07 AM

[QUOTE=JohnDeSpacito;3800887]Where do people come up with this ѕhit?[/

Reading, I mean smoking the tea leaves.

Halon1211 05-10-2024 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy (Post 3800853)
Please let it be Clever Airlines

I think it actually even might be clever with a “K” to be more trendy.

Klever Air

Judge Smails 05-14-2024 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3800589)
TC alluded to this a lot in the earnings call. But the plan in the mean time before another merger is we are going to change to a full service airline (Yes, this will be the big announcement that he talked about for June or August) He mentioned people that no matter what will avoid Spirit no matter how cheap because of the bad experience.

So when we go to a full service airline we are also going to be getting rid of the name Spirit (it’s been tarnished) I believe the short list for the new name of the airline are Clever Airlines, Voyage Air Lines (Delta way to spell Airline…makes it extra gravitas), or Harmony Airways. We will get rid of the loud yellow color and have proper uniforms for all employees.

but going back to what I said in the beginning this is in the mean time while we wait for another merger. Spirit was never meant to be around for the long haul. Signs in the industry point to Southwest or Frontier again. (And before you ask, both airlines would be an actual Merger and NOT an acquisition)


Rebranding an airline takes time and money. We have neither.

Halon1211 05-17-2024 10:54 PM

It’s happening.
 

Originally Posted by Judge Smails (Post 3802376)
Rebranding an airline takes time and money. We have neither.


You guys just witnessed the first step of Spirit Airlines abandoning the ULCC model with Ted’s email last night.

Next we will start to announce things like free Cary on bags/food and drinks. Increase in ticket prices.

Then, debt will be spread out of the next few years so we can be solvent.

it’s happening guys #KleverAir #SouthwestMerger #UnitedMerger? #ThisOnesForYou #TheWheelsAreTurning #RIP_Pebbles

Nighthound 05-17-2024 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3803553)
You guys just witnessed the first step of Spirit Airlines abandoning the ULCC model with Ted’s email last night.

Next we will start to announce things like free Cary on bags/food and drinks. Increase in ticket prices.

Then, debt will be spread out of the next few years so we can be solvent.

it’s happening guys #KleverAir #SouthwestMerger #UnitedMerger? #ThisOnesForYou #TheWheelsAreTurning #RIP_Pebbles


hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa aa. You are funny! NO -_-

BusBoi 05-18-2024 04:23 AM

Eliminating all cancel/change fees. Seems like something is happening.

Stayontarget 05-18-2024 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by BusBoi (Post 3803566)
Eliminating all cancel/change fees. Seems like something is happening.

Frontier and Spirit announced cancel/change fees going away on the same day?

Halon1211 05-18-2024 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by Stayontarget (Post 3803583)
Frontier and Spirit announced cancel/change fees going away on the same day?

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/05/17/frontier-airlines-change-fees-scrapped.html

okay this is weird…

frontier merger again?

nene 05-18-2024 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by Stayontarget (Post 3803583)
Frontier and Spirit announced cancel/change fees going away on the same day?

So if you find a market wherein Spirit /Frontier fly twice or more in one day you are now able to freely change to other flight same day as long as there are scenes.

Cyio 05-18-2024 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3800589)
TC alluded to this a lot in the earnings call. But the plan in the mean time before another merger is we are going to change to a full service airline (Yes, this will be the big announcement that he talked about for June or August) He mentioned people that no matter what will avoid Spirit no matter how cheap because of the bad experience.

So when we go to a full service airline we are also going to be getting rid of the name Spirit (it’s been tarnished) I believe the short list for the new name of the airline are Clever Airlines, Voyage Air Lines (Delta way to spell Airline…makes it extra gravitas), or Harmony Airways. We will get rid of the loud yellow color and have proper uniforms for all employees.

but going back to what I said in the beginning this is in the mean time while we wait for another merger. Spirit was never meant to be around for the long haul. Signs in the industry point to Southwest or Frontier again. (And before you ask, both airlines would be an actual Merger and NOT an acquisition)

WN doing a merger you say? 🤔. If I was a betting man I would say acquisition is a more likely scenario and I give even that long odds.

Noisecanceller 05-18-2024 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3803671)
WN doing a merger you say? 🤔. If I was a betting man I would say acquisition is a more likely scenario and I give even that long odds.

long odds yes

merger vs acquisition
potato poaatato

RiddleEagle18 05-20-2024 01:41 PM

This is where JB and NK legal teams failed. They allowed the DOJ to paint a Picture that spirits buisness model was static and it would never change. Despite the fact and spirit and JB have both changed their buisness models at least once each in the last 15 years. The judge bought it and based the majority of his decision on it.


Now there is a good chance spirit will move to a business model that is very similar to Jb after all.

MCDUmanipulator 05-20-2024 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 (Post 3804327)
This is where JB and NK legal teams failed. They allowed the DOJ to paint a Picture that spirits buisness model was static and it would never change. Despite the fact and spirit and JB have both changed their buisness models at least once each in the last 15 years. The judge bought it and based the majority of his decision on it.


Now there is a good chance spirit will move to a business model that is very similar to Jb after all.

sounds like spirit management is just out to shove it to the doj anyway they can before they die.

Flyby1206 05-20-2024 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 (Post 3804327)
This is where JB and NK legal teams failed. They allowed the DOJ to paint a Picture that spirits buisness model was static and it would never change. Despite the fact and spirit and JB have both changed their buisness models at least once each in the last 15 years. The judge bought it and based the majority of his decision on it.


Now there is a good chance spirit will move to a business model that is very similar to Jb after all.

Ted Christie on the stand could have said “Our business model cannot continue as it stands today, we need to rebrand as a full service carrier.” Merger approved.

The more I think about it the more I add to my tin foil hat and think JB purposely lost the court case because they didn’t want to pay for NK.

CatPilot1 05-20-2024 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 3804385)
Ted Christie on the stand could have said “Our business model cannot continue as it stands today, we need to rebrand as a full service carrier.” Merger approved.

The more I think about it the more I add to my tin foil hat and think JB purposely lost the court case because they didn’t want to pay for NK.

I wonder why Robin was fired, but Ted/Bendo haven’t been. I’m kidding; Ted was right about JB merger prospects. After a 2 year delay, he’s finally able to implement the final plan. Granted, the engine issues are a b&tch.

what’s this all about?

https://www.wdrb.com/news/national/s...c1e907c1f.html

Halon1211 05-21-2024 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by CatPilot1 (Post 3804394)
I wonder why Robin was fired, but Ted/Bendo haven’t been. I’m kidding; Ted was right about JB merger prospects. After a 2 year delay, he’s finally able to implement the final plan. Granted, the engine issues are a b&tch.

what’s this all about?

https://www.wdrb.com/news/national/s...c1e907c1f.html


I was wondering the same thing because I got an email from my stock account saying I need to vote as a SAVE shareholder

Noisecanceller 05-21-2024 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by CatPilot1 (Post 3804394)
I wonder why Robin was fired, but Ted/Bendo haven’t been. I’m kidding; Ted was right about JB merger prospects. After a 2 year delay, he’s finally able to implement the final plan. Granted, the engine issues are a b&tch.

what’s this all about?

https://www.wdrb.com/news/national/s...c1e907c1f.html

whats the “final plan” and why couldn’t it be implemented two years ago?

Tranquility 05-23-2024 04:41 PM

Hoping for SJC-DCA??? What is this nonsense?! Has our management officially gone off the rails??

BusBoi 05-23-2024 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by Tranquility (Post 3805131)
Hoping for SJC-DCA??? What is this nonsense?! Has our management officially gone off the rails??

Huh? Context?

JohnDeSpacito 05-23-2024 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by BusBoi (Post 3805156)
Huh? Context?

https://ir.spirit.com/news-releases/...t/default.aspx

PineappleXpres 05-24-2024 12:15 AM


Originally Posted by JohnDeSpacito (Post 3805179)

SaintJesusChrist

Halon1211 05-24-2024 02:46 AM


Originally Posted by Tranquility (Post 3805131)
Hoping for SJC-DCA??? What is this nonsense?! Has our management officially gone off the rails??

flying from one major to metropolitan to another… what’s your point?

would you rather see us fly between Flagstaff, AZ and Scranton, PA?

BusBoi 05-24-2024 05:30 AM

That would be cool adding DCA as a station, but I'm surprised they don't want to fly from there to our usual destinations first.

I remember the river visual being kinda fun.

Directautogroup 05-24-2024 10:11 AM

DOT deciding between Spirit doing SJC and Alaska doing SAN-DCA. I remember Spirit calling the DOJ a bunch of hacks on the last earnings call and having no political influence.

N6279P 05-24-2024 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by Directautogroup (Post 3805303)
DOT deciding between Spirit doing SJC and Alaska doing SAN-DCA. I remember Spirit calling the DOJ a bunch of hacks on the last earnings call and having no political influence.

The Bay Area already has two daily flights, meanwhile SAN has none.

CatPilot1 05-25-2024 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3804632)
whats the “final plan” and why couldn’t it be implemented two years ago?

Ran into Ted. He filled me in on the plan. He got this email from a Nigerian Prince promising him a chunk of money. He wired the funds to get the guy out of prison, now just waiting to hear back from him sometime in July.

hoover 05-28-2024 05:54 AM

Can your planes go DCA-SJC with the shorter runways at DCA?

BusBoi 05-28-2024 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by hoover (Post 3806246)
Can your planes go DCA-SJC with the shorter runways at DCA?

Yes, DCA isn't short, it's like 7000ft. Other airlines with the same planes do it every day.

hoover 05-28-2024 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by BusBoi (Post 3806248)
Yes, DCA isn't short, it's like 7000ft. Other airlines with the same planes do it every day.

thanks. I dont fly Airbus so I wasnt sure.

Margaritaville 05-28-2024 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by hoover (Post 3806246)
Can your planes go DCA-SJC with the shorter runways at DCA?

Im thinking it would have to be a neo. I don't think an A320 ceo has legs for that, especially with an alternate which is usual in the Bay Area. Regardless of runway length.

Halon1211 05-28-2024 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3806309)
Im thinking it would have to be a neo. I don't think an A320 ceo has legs for that, especially with an alternate which is usual in the Bay Area. Regardless of runway length.

I’m sure it will probably be a NEO, however I have done a transcon going west in a A320ceo before.


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