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b3181981 09-10-2024 11:10 AM

feasible for the employees to take control?
 
I know it's bad advice to owe airline stocks when you're an airline pilot, eggs in one basket and all, but at what point would it make sense to take control of the company through buying the stock? At the current stock price it would cost each pilot $37000 to have 51% of the common stock.

StoneQOLdCrazy 09-10-2024 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by b3181981 (Post 3836109)
at what point would it make sense to take control of the company through buying the stock?

At no point whatsoever

CincoDeMayo 09-10-2024 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by b3181981 (Post 3836109)
I know it's bad advice to owe airline stocks when you're an airline pilot, eggs in one basket and all, but at what point would it make sense to take control of the company through buying the stock? At the current stock price it would cost each pilot $37000 to have 51% of the common stock.

And you think you could just buy up 51% of the stock…and at the current price? Haha.

PineappleXpres 09-10-2024 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3836136)
And you think you could just buy up 51% of the stock…and at the current price? Haha.

Wouldn’t that drive the price up? Keep it low so somebody can make a move on you.

APCHCLIMB 09-10-2024 02:48 PM

Pilots take control of Spirit? lol. Probably go out of business even faster than you are now.

Could you imagine that Halon kid making CEO decisions?

Noisecanceller 09-10-2024 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by b3181981 (Post 3836109)
I know it's bad advice to owe airline stocks when you're an airline pilot, eggs in one basket and all, but at what point would it make sense to take control of the company through buying the stock? At the current stock price it would cost each pilot $37000 to have 51% of the common stock.

Why would I spend $37k or likely way more on something that’s going to zero

roketengineer 09-10-2024 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by b3181981 (Post 3836109)
I know it's bad advice to owe airline stocks when you're an airline pilot, eggs in one basket and all, but at what point would it make sense to take control of the company through buying the stock? At the current stock price it would cost each pilot $37000 to have 51% of the common stock.

Ewwww, just buy $BTC instead brah.

JulesWinfield 09-10-2024 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3836189)
Why would I spend $37k or likely way more on something that’s going to zero

Like a Miata

WHACKMASTER 09-10-2024 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by JulesWinfield (Post 3836207)
Like a Miata

Oh no you didn’t!

FLYBOYMATTHEW 09-10-2024 06:00 PM

Shall we name it "Emu International Air Lines"?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi...onal_Air_Lines

Halon1211 09-10-2024 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by APCHCLIMB (Post 3836186)
Pilots take control of Spirit? lol. Probably go out of business even faster than you are now.

Could you imagine that Halon kid making CEO decisions?

jeeze what did I do? Don't worry about me I’m not stupid enough to want to buy a company that about to go bust. I’ll leave that for you.

ugleeual 09-10-2024 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by b3181981 (Post 3836109)
I know it's bad advice to owe airline stocks when you're an airline pilot, eggs in one basket and all, but at what point would it make sense to take control of the company through buying the stock? At the current stock price it would cost each pilot $37000 to have 51% of the common stock.

‘we did that at United… didn’t work well except for the CEOs…

b3181981 09-10-2024 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3836136)
And you think you could just buy up 51% of the stock…and at the current price? Haha.

No one wouldn't be able to buy up 51% at once at the current price, but a very large group of people over time could buy it up. It looks like about three percent of the shares are trading daily so it could take a couple of weeks to do so. I'm on the outside looking in. I've just done napkin math looking between airlines and total pilots and places like United, Delta, Southwest and even frontier, the cost per pilot to by the company one could buy a house, but 37k is as pointed out a nice miata. How much money would a Spirit captain spend on union dues over a decade in comparison? Probably naivety on my part.

fw90 09-10-2024 08:49 PM

Elliott and Ichan are wrecking SWA and JB with 10% stock. So a lot less shares need to be owned.

Halon1211 09-11-2024 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by ugleeual (Post 3836235)
‘we did that at United… didn’t work well except for the CEOs…

can you elaborate? What went down?

69fastback 09-11-2024 12:45 PM

Brilliant idea! Let’s buy it!






Then what?

Halon1211 09-11-2024 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by 69fastback (Post 3836372)
Brilliant idea! Let’s buy it!






Then what?

it goes bankrupt and we lose all our money… yes let’s do it

nene 09-11-2024 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3836280)
can you elaborate? What went down?

Google the United ESOP program for multitudes of info.

Heres a primer: https://plugin24.tripod.com/esop.html

FriendlyPilot 09-12-2024 12:52 AM


Originally Posted by b3181981 (Post 3836109)
I know it's bad advice to owe airline stocks when you're an airline pilot, eggs in one basket and all, but at what point would it make sense to take control of the company through buying the stock? At the current stock price it would cost each pilot $37000 to have 51% of the common stock.

If you have $37,000 (post tax) you don't ever need again then go for it. Spirit's market value is about $270M. Its projected loss in Q3 (based on management forecast of $1.16B revenue with 29% operating loss) is going to be about a $330M loss, which is more than its entire market cap.

Maybe some wallstbets group on Reddit would step in to crush the shorts and start buying shares? That would be interesting. Could turn it into a meme stock like Gamestop or AMC.

beanflicker 09-12-2024 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW (Post 3836221)
Shall we name it "Emu International Air Lines"?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_International_Air_Lines

settle down Doyle

Texas250 09-13-2024 01:35 AM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3836375)
it goes bankrupt and we lose all our money… yes let’s do it

Just like our supreme leader, I have concepts of a plan

CatPilot1 09-13-2024 03:35 AM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3836375)
it goes bankrupt and we lose all our money… yes let’s do it

Turned down an X trip and spent all night collecting catalytic converters and central air unit copper coil! As soon as the yard opens I’ll have money for more shares! I should be able to buy the float.

ridinhigh 09-20-2024 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot (Post 3836434)
If you have $37,000 (post tax) you don't ever need again then go for it. Spirit's market value is about $270M. Its projected loss in Q3 (based on management forecast of $1.16B revenue with 29% operating loss) is going to be about a $330M loss, which is more than its entire market cap.

Maybe some wallstbets group on Reddit would step in to crush the shorts and start buying shares? That would be interesting. Could turn it into a meme stock like Gamestop or AMC.

HODL
only need a triple from here to break even.

Bitcoin 09-21-2024 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by roketengineer (Post 3836200)
Ewwww, just buy $BTC instead brah.

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