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ROTORGUY 01-15-2025 06:38 PM

Escorted out by armed security
 

Originally Posted by Alexjones (Post 3871346)
It looks like the planned 80 million in cost cutting via a reduction in work force has started today

Rumor is A LOT of headquarters staff have been let go,,

Hoping all the people that were escorted off the property today after being laid off find a new job soon. Sad deal. Hope all the pilots looking for their forever home find it before the music stops.

Halon1211 01-15-2025 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by ROTORGUY (Post 3871506)
Hoping all the people that were escorted off the property today after being laid off find a new job soon. Sad deal. Hope all the pilots looking for their forever home find it before the music stops.


I can’t wait to call crew scheduling and get someone from India.

CatPilot1 01-16-2025 12:19 AM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3871549)
I can’t wait to call crew scheduling and get someone from India.

Automation my boy. No need for the humans in India. You been on reserve lately? A text bot assigns that trip now. All airlines converted to computer based systems recurrent training years ago, it’s a matter of time that 1 day in person class will be too. I’d be surprised though, if they outsourced sim instruction; too many problems. Bob Ford and Bob Harrison are just starting. Been to a store lately? Self checkout has been around for a few years. 10 checkout machines with surveillance, and 1 human. You never thought this wouldn’t be implemented at the airport? Spirit isn’t throwing noodles at the wall to see what sticks. Anything aviation is slow to modernize, but it eventually does. Employees are an unknown quantity, computers aren’t. You’re witnessing in real time Spirit using bankruptcy, with the help of investors; to take that leap. Shedding debt, and shedding ‘replaceable’ employees in just a few months; all made easier with chapter 11. Other airline C suites are jealous. Never let a crisis go to waste.

Chimpy 01-16-2025 01:31 AM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3871549)
I can’t wait to call crew scheduling and get someone from India.

I mean…… can’t get any worse from what I remembered. When you talked you heard an echo while the Scheduler's Kids were screaming in the background…….

hercretired 01-16-2025 03:27 AM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3871549)
I can’t wait to call crew scheduling and get someone from India.

Hello Team member, thank you for calling. My name is Kevin. Are you having a fantastic day today?

TOGALOCK 01-16-2025 04:43 AM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3871549)
I can’t wait to call crew scheduling and get someone from India.

Oldie, but goodie:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6C8Z9aBa2Y

Lincoln Osiris 01-16-2025 05:44 AM


Originally Posted by TOGALOCK (Post 3871597)

I was thinking of this same video! lmao classic

Brownose74 01-16-2025 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by FutureMajor8 (Post 3871494)
Anyone know if SF, the old director of pilot hiring, is still at Spirit?

lol I was thinking the same thing… very curious to know. She made a lot of pilots squirm….

rickair7777 01-16-2025 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by CatPilot1 (Post 3871561)
All airlines converted to computer based systems recurrent training years ago, it’s a matter of time that 1 day in person class will be too.

Alaska just brought back the in-person day, several good reasons for that. There are things which CBT's can't cover, especially for employees like us who may talk to their immediate boss once every ten years, if you pass him in the hallway.


Originally Posted by CatPilot1 (Post 3871561)
I’d be surprised though, if they outsourced sim instruction; too many problems.

That actually has been done, by regionals. Yes there were problems. Involving any non-company pilot in training will virtually ensure problems.



Originally Posted by CatPilot1 (Post 3871561)
Been to a store lately? Self checkout has been around for a few years. 10 checkout machines with surveillance, and 1 human.

Interesting recent article in one of the business rags (WSJ?)... The self-checkout fad is actually getting rolled back by a lot of stores.

1. Shrinkage increases by 4-5%, due either to errors or theft.
2. Customer experience is often degraded. If I'm just getting a bag of chips, I'll do self checkout. But a whole cart? Not a chance, especially since I usually get beer or wine. It's very frustrating for the customer when the things malfunction and you have to get help, especially dealing with produce.
3. Machines are expensive to begin with, and inevitably have higher mx costs than originally envisioned (real world =/= design lab).


Originally Posted by CatPilot1 (Post 3871561)
You never thought this wouldn’t be implemented at the airport? Spirit isn’t throwing noodles at the wall to see what sticks.

Self-service boarding pass kiosks are actually mostly fine, since it's a single transaction it doesn't waste a lot of your time when it malfunctions. They do malfunction, we use them, and for some reason they're too stupid to know when they're out of paper, so you can finish the process, the printer makes a whirring noise, but nothing comes out.


Originally Posted by CatPilot1 (Post 3871561)
Anything aviation is slow to modernize, but it eventually does. Employees are an unknown quantity, computers aren’t. You’re witnessing in real time Spirit using bankruptcy, with the help of investors; to take that leap. Shedding debt, and shedding ‘replaceable’ employees in just a few months; all made easier with chapter 11. Other airline C suites are jealous. Never let a crisis go to waste.

I'm going to speculate that Ch.11 is not the time to rush out a bunch of innovative, expensive automation. Too much other stuff going on for management, and the judge (and likely creditors) would have to approve significant outlays.

CincoDeMayo 01-16-2025 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by CatPilot1 (Post 3871561)
Automation my boy. No need for the humans in India. You been on reserve lately? A text bot assigns that trip now. All airlines converted to computer based systems recurrent training years ago, it’s a matter of time that 1 day in person class will be too. I’d be surprised though, if they outsourced sim instruction; too many problems.

All flight instruction has to be done by a Spirit seniority list pilot.


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