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Originally Posted by Danger Close
(Post 3871930)
Training Kingdom..How Delta didn’t snag this one first is beyond me(sarcasm)
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
(Post 3872296)
Virginia Ave (location of Delta HQ and training center) exudes nothing regal. Bullet holes in hotels were put up in, old and dingy rooms, murders and robberies all around, etc.
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Originally Posted by putzin
(Post 3872509)
Ya, I know. They’re doing it so they can liquidate it.
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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
(Post 3872598)
Mind explaining the logic? I’m not versed in how the current actions lead to that.
there is a theory that the bondholders recent investments are a ploy to take control of the company and fleece it before liquidation |
Originally Posted by VacancyBid
(Post 3872608)
i took it as sarcasm
there is a theory that the bondholders recent investments are a ploy to take control of the company and fleece it before liquidation Those things stated above that are not leased are highly leveraged with little equity compared to the skin the bondholders have in the game. Now, as a packaged airline you get about 200+ airplanes at much reduced lease rates from what you could get those some planes on the open market for. Many of which will be paid for by P&W allowing some relief for conversion period for an acquiring airline. You also get a large order book as well as a new plug and play training center and offices without having to take the time to build or expand your own. All comes with a substantially reduced debt load along with not having to pay common stock holders a premium for their shares. |
Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
(Post 3872697)
I just don’t understand what there is to fleece? The business only has value as a packaged airline. Aside from the the operating cert, the HQ, a few LGA slots, and about 50 airplanes, everything else is leased.
Those things stated above that are not leased are highly leveraged with little equity compared to the skin the bondholders have in the game. Now, as a packaged airline you get about 200+ airplanes at much reduced lease rates from what you could get those some planes on the open market for. Many of which will be paid for by P&W allowing some relief for conversion period for an acquiring airline. You also get a large order book as well as a new plug and play training center and offices without having to take the time to build or expand your own. All comes with a substantially reduced debt load along with not having to pay common stock holders a premium for their shares. |
Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
(Post 3872697)
I just don’t understand what there is to fleece? The business only has value as a packaged airline. Aside from the the operating cert, the HQ, a few LGA slots, and about 50 airplanes, everything else is leased.
Those things stated above that are not leased are highly leveraged with little equity compared to the skin the bondholders have in the game. Now, as a packaged airline you get about 200+ airplanes at much reduced lease rates from what you could get those some planes on the open market for. Many of which will be paid for by P&W allowing some relief for conversion period for an acquiring airline. You also get a large order book as well as a new plug and play training center and offices without having to take the time to build or expand your own. All comes with a substantially reduced debt load along with not having to pay common stock holders a premium for their shares. |
Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
(Post 3872697)
I just don’t understand what there is to fleece?
Not saying it's the plan or a viable plan but that's the concept. |
Originally Posted by hoover
(Post 3872590)
but you can walk to spondivits
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
(Post 3872097)
15 P&W NEO engines plus 15 LGA slots and all NK’s DCA slots (I didn’t realize Spirit had any of these). TC is leveraging everything he can get his hands on! Apologies if this has already been discussed in another thread. |
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