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Originally Posted by SSlow (Post 3909295)

Oh c'mon man seriously, what would Doug Parker know about airline mergers?

haha nice

filler

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Originally Posted by loudclouds (Post 3909280)

I’d agree with you if Dave’s history showed anything of the sort, but it’s suggests otherwise. Who am I to go against giants like Doug Parker and actual industry analysts all saying this is a set up for a merger.
I do understand where you’re coming from, I obviously pray that’s not the case. I do think it’s interesting BB said he will not be commenting on M&A. Normally when nothing is in the works, they just say so. Whether or not a deal is reached, you can rest assure they are at the very least talking behind closed doors.

as much as anyone does not want it to happen, it has to happen. The industry materially changed over COVID and the USA does not have the appetite for two ULCC’s. I think a new airline of that scale can make some changes to customer service along with experience. My hope would be to offer actual lower fares while treating people well. I like to think about what Southwest was 15 years ago. That combined company could do just that.

long term viability for both pilot groups is much better together then separate.

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Originally Posted by SSlow (Post 3909295)

Oh c'mon man seriously, what would Doug Parker know about airline mergers?

About as much as he knows about getting DUIs…. 😬

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Originally Posted by redhot (Post 3909407)

Changes to customer service need to happen at both carriers regardless. As you say, “times have changed.”

Is the general idea then that he is temporary? Does he know what he's doing - any idea what his leadership style is or what can be expected here?

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Originally Posted by reeeeeeegional (Post 3909445)

Is the general idea then that he is temporary? Does he know what he's doing - any idea what his leadership style is or what can be expected here?

why don’t you do some research on him and look him up? See what he’s done in the past, who he’s done it for, and how those companies faired.

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Originally Posted by Born2FlyAv8R (Post 3909472)

why don’t you do some research on him and look him up? See what he’s done in the past, who he’s done it for, and how those companies faired.

Never understood why people do this. What’s the point of a forum? He’s asking Spirit pilot’s opinions about this guy…where is he supposed to find that on the google machine?

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Originally Posted by LongHornFlyer (Post 3909475)

Never understood why people do this. What’s the point of a forum? He’s asking Spirit pilot’s opinions about this guy…where is he supposed to find that on the google machine?

I’m really not trying to be that guy, but what do we know about him? Other than the information that’s on the internet, nothing. I said that because that’s the only place we can find out right now. Spirit pilots don’t have an opinion cause we’ve only had him for two weeks more or less. So we don’t know his leadership style or what he’s like yet. The only thing I know is from searching the google. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ a google search can at least tell you where he’s been in the past, the positions he’s held, and maybe the role he did or didn’t play in those companies in being successful or not

I think it’s only fair to ask how many scoops and what flavor…. 😬

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Originally Posted by redhot (Post 3909407)

it’s not about doubling in size. The ULCCs are the only airlines trying to make money through moving economy passengers. That’s why Barry is always droning on about CASM this, CASM that, .08¢ CASM, blah blah blah. The legacies have figured out moving pax is a side show. It’s a losers game.

Delta makes its money through credit cards, cargo, MRO services, training services, oil wells, premium/business, upgrades, intl. travel, lounges, on top of all the other ancillary fees (bags, Wi-Fi, drinks, etc.).

They also have a large regional network of 50-70 seat rjs that allow them to maintain routes and markets year round, while the ULCCs have to move in and out of markets because they can’t fill a 321 neo during the offseason. They probably run those RJs at a loss, hence why they have a much larger CASM. Again, they don’t care about moving pax.

doublign in size by over paying for a bankrupt company, bloated with debt, while waving a bear paw, and telling pax how much you love them isn’t the panacea you think it is.