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FriendlyPilot 07-27-2025 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by fw90 (Post 3932366)
Exactly. Crummy deal for sure. If we were any other airline they would bend over backwards.

RTX made 1.66 billion Q2. They are not hurting.

The "other airlines" buy insurance to cover stuff like this. Spirit did not. Don't blame P&W. Spirit management rolled the dice and lost big time.

FriendlyPilot 07-27-2025 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by MANTOGASRS (Post 3932141)
My understanding is the current MEC Chair and NC is in training now for the first time in years. I found that out last week

They probably found out what the plan for Spirit is and its not likely flying planes or getting acquired and need to get their 100 hours of currency (or whatever it is now). This is not normal behavior for senior union leadership to go back to flying.

colonials13 07-28-2025 05:06 AM

270 furloughs and 140 downgrades confirmed. Company email. LGA co-domicile with EWR. No other base closure info.

GearedUp 07-28-2025 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3932340)
BTW this is the longest flame thread I’ve ever read. This OP went fishing and found an entire pack of jacks ready to feast on anything he throws in the water.

This aged well.

checkgear 07-28-2025 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by GearedUp (Post 3932448)
This aged well.

Some guys just want to stick their head in the sand and pretend it can’t happen to them.

3inthegreen 07-28-2025 05:34 AM

Sorry to hear about the reduction bid. Sucks for this pilot group for sure. If anyone wants help with AA, reach out to me and I’ll do all I can.

AllOva736 07-28-2025 06:33 AM

I’m a line holder as a CA this month, can’t even hold my base after the reduction. Got an interview offer from a legacy 10 minutes before this reduction email. Life is a roller coaster.

Beech Dude 07-28-2025 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by AllOva736 (Post 3932484)
I’m a line holder as a CA this month, can’t even hold my base after the reduction. Got an interview offer from a legacy 10 minutes before this reduction email. Life is a roller coaster.

Congrats and good luck. And yet they tell us the "systems" dont talk to each other :D

ImSoSuss 07-28-2025 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by LNAVVNAVPATH (Post 3931892)
Anyone else hear about the downgrades coming? IAH Captain and looking at weighing my options between downgrading or between commuting to Florida. Kid headed into college so I can’t really afford the downgrade, but my QOL is about to tank. Just added a bunch of 135 Apps out there since I haven’t had ANY luck with Legacies calling me.

For those bottom Captains about to get displaced, what’s yall plans, commute, or downgrade to avoid commuting?

Just keep in mind with the current situation once you downgrade it may be years before you get a chance to upgrade again.

LNAVVNAVPATH 07-28-2025 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by ImSoSuss (Post 3932491)
Just keep in mind with the current situation once you downgrade it may be years before you get a chance to upgrade again.

I’m just so terrified I don’t know what to do!! Ever since I read that email I’m so angry I could punch a wall. These 105 Captains from Vegas are gonna push SO MANY junior pilots out of DFW and IAH into Florida and maybe even the Northeast. I never should have ever left the Corporate Job I had. The only reason I did was my ex wife ended up sleeping with one of the owners while I was in long term training on the Hawker. FML. I think for me, I’m gonna nuke my 401k, pay off my house, downgrade back to FO, and pull all my kids out of their club sports, and then just keep applying everywhere and anywhere. F&ck!!!!!!! I should have left when Frontier fell through the first time! F&ck this POS airline!! I hope Ted slips and falls and his guitar lands right up his a$$!!!!!!!!!!


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