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Lincoln Osiris 08-05-2025 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by AbjectFutility (Post 3935547)
Please don't come to a legacy with that level of (mis)understanding!

Yowza

Our MEC has been very good at brain washing around here. Quite sad really.

fw90 08-06-2025 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by flier320 (Post 3935417)
frontier just posted Q2 ($70M) loss and stock is down -16%. bets on davis being north or south of minus $300M?

indigo doesn’t need frontier to actually make a profit. And remember indigo holds most of the shares. It’s only to put pressure on the contract negotiations. Can’t drag it out and pay subpar wages if they are profitable…

I can guarantee Frankie is rolling in cash.

flier320 08-06-2025 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by AbjectFutility (Post 3935547)
Please don't come to a legacy with that level of (mis)understanding!

Yowza



Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 3935569)
Our MEC has been very good at brain washing around here. Quite sad really.


Imagine trying to milk a company which lost $3,132,378,000 over 4 years.....

flier320 08-06-2025 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by fw90 (Post 3935719)
indigo doesn’t need frontier to actually make a profit. And remember indigo holds most of the shares. It’s only to put pressure on the contract negotiations. Can’t drag it out and pay subpar wages if they are profitable…

I can guarantee Frankie is rolling in cash.


It's a publically traded company. Hiding revenue would be illegal.

70 million is not that much though. and they have not lost over 3 billion over the last 4 years like spirit....

Judge Smails 08-06-2025 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 3935569)
Our MEC has been very good at brain washing around here. Quite sad really.

You really are a piece of work. The company was and is HEMORRHAGING CASH while you got a large raise. You complain it wasn't big enough while the MEC was telling you then that company was HEMORRHAGING CASH and you call that brainwashing. Can't make this sh!t up.

hoover 08-06-2025 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by Judge Smails (Post 3935789)
You really are a piece of work. The company was and is HEMORRHAGING CASH while you got a large raise. You complain it wasn't big enough while the MEC was telling you then that company was HEMORRHAGING CASH and you call that brainwashing. Can't make this sh!t up.

pilot pay has never been and will never be the reason a company goes bankrupt.

Lincoln Osiris 08-06-2025 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by Judge Smails (Post 3935789)
You really are a piece of work. The company was and is HEMORRHAGING CASH while you got a large raise. You complain it wasn't big enough while the MEC was telling you then that company was HEMORRHAGING CASH and you call that brainwashing. Can't make this sh!t up.

Ah yes our wonderful former CA rep has returned! Please vote on this amazing contract! Then as soon as it goes through I'm gonna get on out of here haha. We do not control the market when it comes to average labor costs. The cost of labor is the cost of labor. The company's inability to make money is their problem NOT MINE. Doesn't seem to stop them from giving themselves bonuses. Do they get a discount on fuel and gate slots because they aren't making money? The answer is no in case you are wondering.

Lincoln Osiris 08-06-2025 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by hoover (Post 3935799)
pilot pay has never been and will never be the reason a company goes bankrupt.

He is a prime example of the brain washing I was talking about.

Judge Smails 08-06-2025 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 3935801)
Ah yes our wonderful former CA rep has returned! Please vote on this amazing contract! Then as soon as it goes through I'm gonna get on out of here haha. We do not control the market when it comes to average labor costs. The cost of labor is the cost of labor. The company's inability to make money is their problem NOT MINE. Doesn't seem to stop them from giving themselves bonuses. Do they get a discount on fuel and gate slots because they aren't making money? The answer is no in case you are wondering.

I was not a CA rep, so you got the wrong guy. Secondly, the company couldn’t afford the contract you already got, and wasn’t willing to give us more. The MEC was pretty clear about that. That deal had to get done quick because JCBA negotiations were going to be right around the corner and then it would’ve been JetBlue’s problem. That contract had to get done quick because it would’ve handicapped us if we went into JCBA negotiations on Contract ‘18 rates. Obviously that all didn’t work out as planned and the current state of the company’s finances means you’re not seeing another CBA anytime soon, if ever. Is that the MEC’s fault too?

Lincoln Osiris 08-06-2025 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by Judge Smails (Post 3935811)
I was not a CA rep, so you got the wrong guy. Secondly, the company couldn’t afford the contract you already got, and wasn’t willing to give us more. The MEC was pretty clear about that. That deal had to get done quick because JCBA negotiations were going to be right around the corner and then it would’ve been JetBlue’s problem. That contract had to get done quick because it would’ve handicapped us if we went into JCBA negotiations on Contract ‘18 rates. Obviously that all didn’t work out as planned and the current state of the company’s finances means you’re not seeing another CBA anytime soon, if ever. Is that the MEC’s fault too?

Yes because they sold us garbage wrapped in certainty and it backfired on them big time. "We have to get this done for JCBA negotiations!". JCBA negotiations never happened... "If the merger fails, we will go right back into section 6!" Well the merger failed and we will never see a new contract outside of a merger this decade. The entire MEC came off like idiots and rightfully so. You never sell a sure thing or "next time". Because "next time" came around and it wasn't so good. I would love to see them try their used car salesman tactics at a legacy because they would get laughed right out of the room.


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