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-   -   Pilot Furlough Recalls! (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/spirit/152424-pilot-furlough-recalls.html)

rickair7777 03-12-2026 03:05 PM
Originally Posted by emergencyexit (Post 4011985)
We’re going to have to hire again .. not just the recalls. With the attrition and lack of pilots coming back …
He may already have plenty of 91/135 PIC.

Stankhunt42 03-12-2026 05:02 PM
Originally Posted by RStrawberry (Post 4012033)
They will have no problem filling classes. 1500 hour CFIs dont have a ton of options.
Yea but they are probably willing to wait for a better one at a regional. I know 3 guys at that 1500hr mark. 2 have no interest in NK even if it opens back up. In their eyes flow times are about 7 years right now which, since they are young, is more than reasonable for them. The third is absolutely stoked on spirit. However, he has been rejected by all the regionals and 135 operators for 2 DUIs and a FAA 709 violation. Unfortunately that may be who they can find. Remember the younger generation is very entitled, they think it is going to be like it was for their buddies who got hired in 2022 by all the legacies with 1500TT. In short, they feel like Spirit is beneath them.

captnate702 03-12-2026 07:43 PM
Originally Posted by Stankhunt42 (Post 4012168)
Yea but they are probably willing to wait for a better one at a regional. I know 3 guys at that 1500hr mark. 2 have no interest in NK even if it opens back up. In their eyes flow times are about 7 years right now which, since they are young, is more than reasonable for them. The third is absolutely stoked on spirit. However, he has been rejected by all the regionals and 135 operators for 2 DUIs and a FAA 709 violation. Unfortunately that may be who they can find. Remember the younger generation is very entitled, they think it is going to be like it was for their buddies who got hired in 2022 by all the legacies with 1500TT. In short, they feel like Spirit is beneath them.
I’ve definitely noticed the entitlement of some of the younger generation as well. They think they should all be holding a line as an FO at one of the big four by age 30 because they have friends that were fortunate enough get hired in 2022-2023 by a legacy.

DirkDiggler9999 03-13-2026 06:34 AM
I know a guy that failed NK training and now works for the FAA

rickair7777 03-13-2026 08:25 AM
Originally Posted by DirkDiggler9999 (Post 4012293)
I know a guy that failed NK training and now works for the FAA
FAA is fine with that. Where they draw the line is too many at-fault accidents within recent years :rolleyes:

putzin 03-13-2026 10:32 AM
Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 4012001)
Not trying to sound snarky, but given the dire financial situation, do you think that they’d be able to fill a class? Would 1,500 hour CFI’s roll the dice on Spirit surviving, or would they rather to go to a regional thinking it’s a quicker and more stable path to building 121 and TPIC time?
Honestly, this is a dumb question.

Respectfully of course. 😉

Jimdunbar 03-13-2026 02:44 PM
Email just came out that we will continue to shrink the fleet to a total of 76-80 aircraft by fall. You’d be dumb to take this recall, only to get furloughed again by fall

havoste 03-13-2026 02:48 PM
Originally Posted by Jimdunbar (Post 4012449)
Email just came out that we will continue to shrink the fleet to a total of 76-80 aircraft by fall. You’d be dumb to take this recall, only to get furloughed again by fall
That doesn't make sense to me- show me the maths, if attrition continues to be 150/month going into Fall, how many pilots will Spirit have and how many do they require?

VacancyBid 03-13-2026 02:54 PM
Originally Posted by Jimdunbar (Post 4012449)
You’d be dumb to take this recall, only to get furloughed again by fall
I'm perplexed why this conversation hasn't shifted towards Spirit's cash position paying $4 for jet fuel. They're flying what, 1000 hours/day at 500 gallons/hour. Ballpark that's $5 million/week extra cost. How does that work?

SoFloFlyer 03-13-2026 06:45 PM
Originally Posted by VacancyBid (Post 4012455)
I'm perplexed why this conversation hasn't shifted towards Spirit's cash position paying $4 for jet fuel. They're flying what, 1000 hours/day at 500 gallons/hour. Ballpark that's $5 million/week extra cost. How does that work?
Or how Calmpilot (Captain?) posted NH and AC deliveries in 2027 in the good news thread? How does that work? Genuinely curious how this plays out if they’re gonna shrink


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