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dn_wisconsin 02-03-2017 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by Tranquility (Post 2294397)
I understand the satisfaction associated with progression, but please don't sugar coat the fact we've been at this for nearly 2 years in the best negotiating environment..... The lost wages & compounding income potential of said wages hurts. BIG TIME. Yuuuuuge. We need to keep the keep the pressure up on both the company & the negotiating committee with what we expect.

Edit: second reading of your post could be interpreted as just news reporting.... I don't know the intent of your post...

I get you're ****ed, as are many of us but it I simply said 2 sections were TA'd and a 3rd is close. That's probably exactly what the union email will say as well. It's news reporting. I didn't sugar coat anything.

You going to remind me what I went through last contract? You've been here how long? The start of these negotiations?

Sailor 02-03-2017 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by Tranquility (Post 2294397)
I understand the satisfaction associated with progression, but please don't sugar coat the fact we've been at this for nearly 2 years in the best negotiating environment..... The lost wages & compounding income potential of said wages hurts. BIG TIME. Yuuuuuge. We need to keep the keep the pressure up on both the company & the negotiating committee with what we expect.

Edit: second reading of your post could be interpreted as just news reporting.... I don't know the intent of your post...

Basically he's just saying what ta'd and what's close to.....no sugar.

Tranquility 02-03-2017 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by dn_wisconsin (Post 2294429)
I get you're ****ed, as are many of us but it I simply said 2 sections were TA'd and a 3rd is close. That's probably exactly what the union email will say as well. It's news reporting. I didn't sugar coat anything.

Really? You going to remind me what I went through last contract? You've been here how long? The start of these negotiations?

I realize that, hence the edit. For some reason couldn't delete the post. I read a bit much into your post.... No need for the chest beating as to how we got our current contact.

Edit: vocabulary is everything, you could have said 'only' sections 5 & 23 TAd, thus implying your dissatisfaction with progress, but you didn't. Most pilots I fly with are displeased with the progress. Are you? And I couldn't give two rats asses when you were hired, I care about where this pilot group is going, not where we were.

Qotsaautopilot 02-03-2017 06:29 PM

Once 9 is TA'd all that's left are the big ones. So we killed two years to start talking Scope, pay, retirement, scheduling, hours of service, and sick leave. Should be able to knock those out in another month no problem. HA!

Tranquility 02-03-2017 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by Sailor (Post 2294431)
Basically he's just saying what ta'd and what's close to.....no sugar.

By chance, do you possibly, maybe, work for the Department of Redundancy Dept.?? ;) :D

Tranquility 02-03-2017 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2294434)
Once 9 is TA'd all that's left are the big ones. So we killed two years to start talking Scope, pay, retirement, scheduling, hours of service, and sick leave. Should be able to knock those out in another month no problem. HA!

Amen, brotha!

Sailor 02-04-2017 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by Tranquility (Post 2294435)
By chance, do you possibly, maybe, work for the Department of Redundancy Dept.?? ;) :D

Easy sally, maybe by some remote chance we were both answering your friendly shot across bow at the same time ..."smiley,applause,thumbs up"

Chimpy 02-05-2017 09:34 AM

So I hear JetBlue has 19 of 31 sections TAd, we have 20 out of 31. We have been negotiating for a lot longer and we already had a CBA to work off of. Even JBs very anti-union mgmt seems to be more willing to get a contract than our management.

I also heard they have 18 days of negotiating in Feb.


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