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ropestart 03-20-2020 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by nibake (Post 3004886)
No, it's speculation. Not far-fetched, but speculation.

I expect the axe to fall by the end of the day today, I'm already looking for work.

Hoping the best for you guys. Hate to see this happen.

apex7 03-20-2020 11:22 AM

I’m sure most of us would much rather take a furlough and have the chance to come back to the company , versus they keep us on property and the company slowly bleeds cash?

for some guys here in there 50s if sun country shuts down they will never see $202 an hour in their careers again. Just a thought. I’d rather take 0 pay now even for a few months/year than start all over. It’s gonna be near impossible to get employed anywhere after this.

ablack722 03-20-2020 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by apex7 (Post 3005246)
I’m sure most of us would much rather take a furlough and have the chance to come back to the company , versus they keep us on property and the company slowly bleeds cash?

for some guys here in there 50s if sun country shuts down they will never see $202 an hour in their careers again. Just a thought. I’d rather take 0 pay now even for a few months/year than start all over. It’s gonna be near impossible to get employed anywhere after this.

Are you serious? Have you ever been furloughed?

ablack722 03-20-2020 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by apex7 (Post 3005246)
I’m sure most of us would much rather take a furlough and have the chance to come back to the company , versus they keep us on property and the company slowly bleeds cash?

for some guys here in there 50s if sun country shuts down they will never see $202 an hour in their careers again. Just a thought. I’d rather take 0 pay now even for a few months/year than start all over. It’s gonna be near impossible to get employed anywhere after this.

Are you serious? Have you ever been furloughed?

sidelinesam 03-20-2020 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by ablack722 (Post 3005627)
Are you serious? Have you ever been furloughed?

I can see where Apex is going with that post. And I think it's a good, valid point.

Yes, being furloughed sucks and it is not fun. But it's also not the end of the world.

I've been furloughed and I remember being distraught and devastated. But looking back
at it more than a decade later I know that life went on and I made the best of the situation.

Mandrake 03-20-2020 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by apex7 (Post 3005246)
I’m sure most of us would much rather take a furlough and have the chance to come back to the company , versus they keep us on property and the company slowly bleeds cash?

for some guys here in there 50s if sun country shuts down they will never see $202 an hour in their careers again. Just a thought. I’d rather take 0 pay now even for a few months/year than start all over. It’s gonna be near impossible to get employed anywhere after this.

Spirit is upgrading guys in 2 years and 8 months at that same rate. And that’s not necessarily pre China Virus because upgrades are still being awarded.

apex7 03-20-2020 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by ablack722 (Post 3005627)
Are you serious? Have you ever been furloughed?

No I have not, but I’m willing to take it over having to start over and that’s something guys who have been here for 5+ years should seriously consider. Do you think people are going to be flying again in 2-3 months at the same capacity we were running?

305808 03-21-2020 01:12 AM


Originally Posted by apex7 (Post 3005246)
I’m sure most of us would much rather take a furlough and have the chance to come back to the company , versus they keep us on property and the company slowly bleeds cash?

for some guys here in there 50s if sun country shuts down they will never see $202 an hour in their careers again. Just a thought. I’d rather take 0 pay now even for a few months/year than start all over. It’s gonna be near impossible to get employed anywhere after this.

you can volunteer for a VLOA. Lead by example. I agree that being seniority number less in a couple months will suck.

Onedayatatimee 03-21-2020 09:23 AM

Seems like the union talking to the company might be premature at this point. Why don’t we wait and see what sort of aid the government is willing to provide in the stimulus package. Upper management may be able to keep the lights on for 30-60days with full pay for the front line employees.

jcool734 03-21-2020 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by Onedayatatimee (Post 3006303)
Seems like the union talking to the company might be premature at this point. Why don’t we wait and see what sort of aid the government is willing to provide in the stimulus package. Upper management may be able to keep the lights on for 30-60days with full pay for the front line employees.


It’s more like they are about to hang them to dry


Apollo has made it clear, their policy is to NEVER support a failing business. They cut losses instantly if they need to.

If they foresee us dying, they will shut down the airline, liquidate all assets, and fire every employee.

We don’t get to ask daddy for help on this one.

We need to solve the current crisis as a group. We’re all in this together, and we’ve all got to be prepared for tough times ahead, in order to survive.

That’s from Sun Country. Email was sent out.


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