I think the 10 carriers that signed the letter are the only members of the Airlines for America association/lobbying group.


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Ya I don’t think SY was ever included


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What does alpa have to say about the open skies agreement now that u.s. airlines are being subsidized by the gov?
http://www.alpa.org/advocacy/state-owned-enterprises

It's been fun
 

Hopefully you guys come out the other end from this, I've got a few friends over here and I'm pulling for you.

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So CARE act is passed, not much details so far on how this effects the SY pilot group?? It sounds encouraging in the short term.

Does anyone have details on CARE and what terms the company is obligated to as far as labor and accepting the money ??

Sounded like the company is interested in voluntary paid time off. Any guesses on what this might entail?? (50-55hr no fly line?).

So far it’s just been vague updates and not a lot of detail. Hope this week it’s more details on how this will effect us all over the coming months and what our options are or what we can expect.

Companies are supposed to apply for aid by this Friday afternoon.

Companies accepting aid cannot furlough or lay off. They are not even supposed to be able to reduce pay rates until September 30. No stock buybacks, but that shouldn't affect Sun Country. Bankruptcy would, however, stop the payments.

If I am reading this confusing paragraph on CBAs correctly, the gubbermint cannot put conditions on our ability to use collective bargaining.

Source:
https://home.treasury.gov/system/fil...ontractors.pdf

it depends on what the definition of "pay rate" is. If your pay is $200/hr. They can maintain that "pay rate" but only pay you 20h a month rather than 75h. Technically, the "pay rate" is the same. Of course I never read the fine print...

That's a good point, I only see "pay rates" in the guidance, so the company would be free to pay fewer hours, if the contract or the union would allow it.

Latest events going on? Are the Amazon birds the saving grace?

Too early to tell.

Latest events: company offered reduced pay leaves to about 50% of the pilots. Only about 1/6 of the captains took and and about 1/3 of the FOs. There are going to be a lot of people sitting on reserve in the cities next month. Awesome if you live there and don't mind being on a leash. For commuters the leave was a no-brainer, despite the lost income.