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Quote: We aren’t talking about that though. We are discussing your claim that they are failing to implement certain parts of the agreement. I believe that, so far, they are implementing (to the best of their ability, given the constraints by an outside software vendor) as scheduled.

While we are on the subject of unrelated things, let’s attack those too. I don’t think our hiring is an issue, I haven’t seen too many empty classes lately. We are stacked with new hires out to September.

With regards to retention, I’m inclined to agree with you. We shouldn’t be losing 6-8 year captains to other airlines. In some instances, I can see it because generally those guys are commuters and are making QOL gains for switching. Overall though, no we shouldn’t be losing those and retention numbers should be better.

I don’t disagree that their tactics during the early stages of negotiation weren’t great, but that’s par for the industry. Alaska is a great example of just how bad we could have had it here. In that light, we got lucky.

Now back to the original question I asked you, what are they failing to implement? You claimed they have been unwilling to implement parts of the new contract.
Which part of the contract have they failed to implement? If you can show that they, through malice, miscalculation, or plain stupidity, they are not implementing, I’d happily agree.

I’m all for holding feet to the fire, but I just can’t get onboard with being frustrated towards them for no reason.
I assume they are still using AIMs? If so they have known forever that AIMs can’t do half the stuff they want it todo, well it probably can but they have to get off the old version that AIMs doesn’t update any more, and in order to get off the old version they have to pay $$$$.
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Quote: I assume they are still using AIMs? If so they have known forever that AIMs can’t do half the stuff they want it todo, well it probably can but they have to get off the old version that AIMs doesn’t update any more, and in order to get off the old version they have to pay $$$$.
Yes, they are very aware of that as explained in the meeting last week.
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Quote: Yes, they are very aware of that as explained in the meeting last week.
So in other words, the company can’t implement the contract on schedule.
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Quote: So in other words, the company can’t implement the contract on schedule.
There are a few parts that didn’t get implemented on time…a few. Those were delayed because AIMS didn’t give the company the required coding in time in order to do so…..as previously explained. However, your post implying that the company is unwilling to to implement parts of the contract is simply not true.
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Quote: There are a few parts that didn’t get implemented on time…a few. Those were delayed because AIMS didn’t give the company the required coding in time in order to do so…..as previously explained. However, your post implying that the company is unwilling to to implement parts of the contract is simply not true.
Exactly! Even with that restriction, the JWG has come up with an alternate method which accomplishes the same thing until the aims solution is done.
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Quote: There are a few parts that didn’t get implemented on time…a few. Those were delayed because AIMS didn’t give the company the required coding in time in order to do so…..as previously explained. However, your post implying that the company is unwilling to to implement parts of the contract is simply not true.
It simply is true. The company is refusing to grant and pay for open time to reserves, which was agreed upon and discussed ad nauseum during TA informational calls and meetings.

In general, the company is at last putting in enough effort to look like they are complying, but no, they have absolutely not been faithfully implementing the contract. The reality is somewhere in the middle of the extreme opinions.
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They have failed to implement first out last out for reserves.
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Quote: It simply is true. The company is refusing to grant and pay for open time to reserves, which was agreed upon and discussed ad nauseum during TA informational calls and meetings.

In general, the company is at last putting in enough effort to look like they are complying, but no, they have absolutely not been faithfully implementing the contract. The reality is somewhere in the middle of the extreme opinions.
And hence, people the company needs still leave.
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Quote: They have failed to implement first out last out for reserves.
Yup, and why is that?
I guess everything the union said the other week was incorrect….my bad.
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Quote: Yup, and why is that?
I guess everything the union said the other week was incorrect….my bad.
Did the company allocate the appropriate resources to implement the contract or not?
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