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MysteriousMrX 11-15-2020 09:12 AM

RNO complex special
 
never flown out of RNO.. but I know the complex special for an engine failure is .. complex..
how do CRJ drivers typically set it up? Seems like someone’s gotta be in white needles and someone in green ?

hydrostream 11-15-2020 09:59 AM

Which one are you looking at?

PerfInit 11-16-2020 04:57 AM

I am guessing OP is talking about the engine-out departure off of KRNO 16R, where you track the b/c localizer to a certain distance and then carefully circumnavigate around “rattlesnake hill”... Back in the day we used the “FIX” page quite a bit for this since it was not loadable as a coded procedure from the Nav Database. Guessing things are better/easier now.

Flyonwall 11-16-2020 09:56 AM

Just did it as a numbered checklist.
1. Do this
2. Now do this at this angle of bank
3. Do this, next is...
4. Do this...

Type of thing as you are flying it. Of course you brief it before hand but that’s what we did in the sim and worked great.

velosnow 11-16-2020 10:30 AM

No longer an RJ guy but I recall it being a mix of white needles, fix rings/lines, radials etc. SkyWest actually had a crew pop a motor out there years back and they flew the complex special the T. Well done crew!

To this day I think that was one the craziest engine out circus of a procedures I've seen.

trip 11-16-2020 11:09 AM

PF in white needles for the SID, PM in green for the special, fix pages and radials/circles if the DME is out.

joepilot 11-20-2020 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by trip (Post 3159619)
PF in white needles for the SID, PM in green for the special, fix pages and radials/circles if the DME is out.

First time I tried this in the sim, It was in a B-727, round dials, VOR and DME.

Not pleasant.

Joe

firefighterplt 11-20-2020 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by joepilot (Post 3161431)
First time I tried this in the sim, It was in a B-727, round dials, VOR and DME.

Not pleasant.

Joe

Back when men were men...

hydrostream 11-22-2020 08:33 AM

Gyros drifting, comms scratching, at night inverted with my air medals dangling in my face.

Winston 11-22-2020 08:38 AM

A decade or so ago a SkyWest RJ blew a motor on takeoff and had to perform the procedure IRL. I looked up the FlightAware track and it was flawless.

About a year later I was riding in the back and recognized the Captain’s name. I shook his hand and told him they should have blown that track up to poster size and hung it in every office at FlightSafety.


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