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Old 11-15-2020 | 09:12 AM
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never flown out of RNO.. but I know the complex special for an engine failure is .. complex..
how do CRJ drivers typically set it up? Seems like someone’s gotta be in white needles and someone in green ?
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Old 11-15-2020 | 09:59 AM
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Which one are you looking at?

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Old 11-16-2020 | 04:57 AM
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I am guessing OP is talking about the engine-out departure off of KRNO 16R, where you track the b/c localizer to a certain distance and then carefully circumnavigate around “rattlesnake hill”... Back in the day we used the “FIX” page quite a bit for this since it was not loadable as a coded procedure from the Nav Database. Guessing things are better/easier now.
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Old 11-16-2020 | 09:56 AM
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Just did it as a numbered checklist.
1. Do this
2. Now do this at this angle of bank
3. Do this, next is...
4. Do this...

Type of thing as you are flying it. Of course you brief it before hand but that’s what we did in the sim and worked great.
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Old 11-16-2020 | 10:30 AM
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No longer an RJ guy but I recall it being a mix of white needles, fix rings/lines, radials etc. SkyWest actually had a crew pop a motor out there years back and they flew the complex special the T. Well done crew!

To this day I think that was one the craziest engine out circus of a procedures I've seen.
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Old 11-16-2020 | 11:09 AM
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PF in white needles for the SID, PM in green for the special, fix pages and radials/circles if the DME is out.
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Old 11-20-2020 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by trip
PF in white needles for the SID, PM in green for the special, fix pages and radials/circles if the DME is out.
First time I tried this in the sim, It was in a B-727, round dials, VOR and DME.

Not pleasant.

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Old 11-20-2020 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by joepilot
First time I tried this in the sim, It was in a B-727, round dials, VOR and DME.

Not pleasant.

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Gyros drifting, comms scratching, at night inverted with my air medals dangling in my face.
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Old 11-22-2020 | 08:38 AM
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A decade or so ago a SkyWest RJ blew a motor on takeoff and had to perform the procedure IRL. I looked up the FlightAware track and it was flawless.

About a year later I was riding in the back and recognized the Captain’s name. I shook his hand and told him they should have blown that track up to poster size and hung it in every office at FlightSafety.
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