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Old 11-03-2009 | 05:15 AM
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I've never had to file a PIREP from the ground before. Now I'm trying to find a way and it is surprisingly difficult, I'm looking for a website that will let me file (preferably easily, but I'll take anything at this point) and can't find one. I've been to DUATS, Jeppesen, FAA.gov, even AOPA and no dice.

Am I just looking in the wrong places? Anyone have any tips?
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Old 11-03-2009 | 05:29 AM
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Cant you call FSS and file one? Or has that changed?
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Old 11-03-2009 | 05:41 AM
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Yeah, that's still the same but on a bad day I can be getting 3+ PIREPS every 5 minutes or so. That's a lot of phone calls. I was just hoping for an online form that can be filled out.
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Old 11-05-2009 | 06:12 AM
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What are you doing that you are filing that many PIREPS? If there's no new information by a different PIREP, you shouldn't be adding more to the system. Honestly, if it's not your information, it's not your PIREP to file IMO.
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Old 11-08-2009 | 06:20 AM
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You're probably right, although I didn't mean I'd be filing all the pireps I get. However, I do get pireps with different conditions in the same general region. Would it be clogging the system to list mod turb in one area and turb no 25 miles away?
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Old 11-09-2009 | 05:38 AM
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I'm confused here.

What are you doing, job wise, or training, how are you generating all these sources for PIREPS? Are you personally observing these conditions or are you gathering them from multiple sources? Generally if your observed condition matches that of an AIRMET/SIGMET, or is of greater degree of severity, then it's ok to file a PIREP to confirm or even elevate the known conditions. Typically Icing/freezing levels, and high level turbulance are most common reported items.

Now, Let's say you experience Mod-Turb 40-ABV, and Smooth below, yes you can do two individual, or just a combination PIREP. In a generalized area, you could make the report off of one station if you want, it's not like you're 100+nm away.

I'm just trying to figure out how you're having 3+PIREPS you want to file per flight or whatever you are doing.
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Old 11-09-2009 | 10:22 AM
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sounds like he's a dispatcher
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Old 11-09-2009 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DeskDriver
You're probably right, although I didn't mean I'd be filing all the pireps I get. However, I do get pireps with different conditions in the same general region. Would it be clogging the system to list mod turb in one area and turb no 25 miles away?
Its useless to give a pirep for negative turb. I here it all the time when somebody gives this full pirep about clear skies, ride smooth, and gives them the temp. Maybe its just me but i dont give a pirep unless i encounter hazardous wx (turb, ice)
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Old 11-10-2009 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Ewfflyer
I'm confused here.

What are you doing, job wise, or training, how are you generating all these sources for PIREPS? Are you personally observing these conditions or are you gathering them from multiple sources? Generally if your observed condition matches that of an AIRMET/SIGMET, or is of greater degree of severity, then it's ok to file a PIREP to confirm or even elevate the known conditions. Typically Icing/freezing levels, and high level turbulance are most common reported items.

Now, Let's say you experience Mod-Turb 40-ABV, and Smooth below, yes you can do two individual, or just a combination PIREP. In a generalized area, you could make the report off of one station if you want, it's not like you're 100+nm away.

I'm just trying to figure out how you're having 3+PIREPS you want to file per flight or whatever you are doing.
Sorry, I should have been more clear. Yeah, I'm a dispatcher and we get quite a few and varied PIREPs from our pilots. We normally send out the info internally but it has occored to me that it might be better to file these with WX Brief (some pilots do, some don't).

Part of me agrees that it's not my PIREP and I wouldn't be reporting it from the position of the pilots' experience and I think they should do it. Another part of me feels that anything I can do to help the pilot focus on flying the plane (by reporting it myself) might be better.

I'm probably overthinking all of this, just seems like there is a better way to opperate than to keep PIREPs internal.
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Old 11-11-2009 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by DeskDriver
I'm probably overthinking all of this, just seems like there is a better way to opperate than to keep PIREPs internal.
Yeah, it's not a problem, I was just trying to figure out where you were coming from.

If something is really adverse, then you could pass it along, but as mentioned above, if it's smooth, clear, etc.. No need to do anything outside of your company.

Honestly you could encourage the pilots to make the official PIREP themselves if it's something they think others outside the company would appreciate. I think they will have the best "judgement" on this seeing how they are in it, experiecing it, and knowing what others out there are actually looking for.

Clear as mud now!
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