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-   -   Autopilot at 30,000 ft and higher? (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/technical/94940-autopilot-30-000-ft-higher.html)

mako88sb 05-07-2016 02:15 PM
Originally Posted by aviatorhi (Post 2124563)
He's clueless.

I agree. He claims to be a pilot btw and made a bunch of noise about his experience but I never asked him what exactly it involved. Anyway, when I challenged him to come either here or pprune, he made all kinds of bs excuses. obviously one of those blusterboy posers.

Otterbox 05-07-2016 02:31 PM
Originally Posted by mako88sb (Post 2124210)
Having a bit of an argument with someone that seems to think the following:

"Ask any airline pilot why it's necessary to have automation at 30,000 feet. They'll tell you that humans lack the dexterity to fly at that altitude, due to thin air."

Took a bit of back and forthing and now he relented a bit with this:

"So let me qualify my remarks about needing automation at altitude:
Today, yes, planes with fly-by-wire can fly manual at 30,000 feet."

He's still adamant that manual flight above 30,000 feet without fly-by-wire can only be done with automation.

I've challenged him to post on a forum like this but he's reluctant to do so. Seems pretty silly I know but it be great to hear from people who do this for a living. No sense bringing up anything about military flying since he'll just brush it off with how they say and do what they are told.
He's wrong. I've hand flown my non flyby wire- non automated multi-engine turboprop at 30k+ ft across some real ****ty parts of the world.

mako88sb 05-07-2016 03:07 PM
Originally Posted by Otterbox (Post 2124575)
He's wrong. I've hand flown my non flyby wire- non automated multi-engine turboprop at 30k+ ft across some real ****ty parts of the world.
Yeah, I always knew he was full of it but I thought I might be able to persuade him to come here and see how long he could last trying to tell professionals they don't know what they are talking about. As mentioned, he's blocked me now but I remembered the old saying about there being more then one way to skin a cat. I'll just start a new post on the hoax site with a link to here so that other people who are dealing with him on their own threads can ask him why he's too much of a chicken**** to counter what's being said here.

Just want to make sure it's okay with everybody first. He hasn't had anybody else from the hoaxhead crowd chiming in with support so I don't think there would be a sudden influx of conspiratards invading this site.

Hacker15e 05-07-2016 04:07 PM
Just what we need at APC, a bunch of truthers/chemtrail types.

mako88sb 05-07-2016 04:19 PM
Originally Posted by Hacker15e (Post 2124606)
Just what we need at APC, a bunch of truthers/chemtrail types.
Ok. Point taken and it won't be brought up again. thanks for letting me know.

FP15 05-08-2016 01:09 AM
Originally Posted by mako88sb (Post 2124569)
I agree. He claims to be a pilot btw and made a bunch of noise about his experience but I never asked him what exactly it involved. Anyway, when I challenged him to come either here or pprune, he made all kinds of bs excuses. obviously one of those blusterboy posers.
He would be a perfect fit for this forum. :)

badflaps 05-08-2016 01:48 AM
Originally Posted by Twin Wasp (Post 2124295)
I've hand flown a 727 at 42,000 feet. Definitely not a fly by wire aircraft. Autopilots are normally used in cruise because hand flying becomes tedious after a while. Nothing to do with "dexterity" or "thin air."
How in the world were you able to get the three holer to FL420? Like sitting in a bathtub on top of a flagpole.

rickair7777 05-08-2016 07:18 AM
Originally Posted by PotatoChip (Post 2124311)
Autopilot kicked off on the CRJ once at 34,000; airplane instantly became inverted and uncontrollable until the captain managed to select the a/p back on. Scariest 16 seconds of my life.
CRJ operators commonly require AP use much above F180 or F200. It can be flown by hand, and if the AP is deferred you can do it up to RVSM space. But it's a little mushy, and if you were near the operational ceiling for the weight and conditions you could put it behind the power curve by over-controlling and creating too much drag. That has more to do with being under-powered than with control-ability.

Twin Wasp 05-08-2016 08:24 AM
Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 2124772)
How in the world were you able to get the three holer to FL420? Like sitting in a bathtub on top of a flagpole.
It was a ferry leg in a -15 200. Pre RVSM days, figured if we were ever going to do it that was the day, got a block 41-43. Can't remember but it wasn't too tight on the speeds. My understanding is Valsan aircraft have no problem going straight to FL 400, 42 shouldn't be much harder for them.

cougar 05-08-2016 10:49 PM
I wonder if all those WWII P-51 pilots realized they had fly-by-wire?


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